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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Conservatives regret it. Not the people having them. Poorly written headline. /S

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I wonder what the regret rate is for getting married? Having kids? Having conservative parents?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Even if they'd been right - it's not a justification for taking away peoples' right to choose. I've made many decisions in my life that I regretted afterward, some irrevocable. (And at least one that I'm certain has a far greater than average regret rate) That's NOT basis for making it illegal for me to make those decisions, and it's for sure not justification for making it illegal for others to make those decisions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

You're missing the point. They regret when people choose gender-affirming surgery. That's the real issue. I know it's not the argument they're saying out loud, but it's the real issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Not to mention the last statistic on regret rates I saw showed that a lower percentage of people regretted transition surgery than regretted things like hip or knee replacement. But of course to them literally anyone who regrets transition is cause to ban it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

In fact, one systematic review found that the average prevalence of surgical regret was 14.4% among all research studies analyzed

Holy shit that's actually crazy to me. [I actually tracked down that number because I was so curious] (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1007/s00268-017-3895-9) It's over half cancer surgery. I've known that the regret rate for transition surgery was low for a long time, but that piece of context kinda blows my mind. You're more likely to regret a variety of life saving procedures than gender affirming surgery, and it's often by insane orders of magnitude.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And even the rare case of transition regret, it's usually because 1. lack of peer group, 2. social condemnation and 3. your family now hates you.

Not because of the procedure, but because of the assholes around you. (This by one older Swedish study on the subject).

It's a literal miracle cure. Any sane doctor would jump for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Even when it is the procedure, it is generally due to poor results, not the decision to have the surgery to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  1. lack of peer group, 2. social condemnation and 3. your family now hates you.

Having seen https://reddit.com/r/detrans what you've said here seems silly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Worth noting that particular subreddit appears to be pretty heavily astroturfed. To the point where some detransitioners created r/actualdetrans to get away from the TERFs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Just a reminder for when you listen to people being presented as trans persons who regret their surgery:

Norma McCorvey - Jane Roe of Roe v Wade - was presented for decades as a devout Christian (evangelical and later Catholic) who regretted her decision. She was used as a prominent voice in the anti-abortion movement and in the attempts to overturn Roe.

She revealed on her deathbed that she was being paid to take that position. The narrative was also complicated by her 35 year relationship with Connie Gonzalez, later claiming that she was no longer a lesbian before confessing that she was paid to say that as well.

Also remember that when they call the child survivors of school shootings “paid actors,” it’s because that’s exactly the tactic they engage in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

No surprise there; it's just more of the same self-serving bullshit.