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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Well yeah Japan is like the most racist country on the planet after Israel

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From a very shallow point of view she wouldn't be my choice. Especially in Japan but whatever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The top photo is unflattering because it's at the end of the competition. There's a better photo further down the article.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Better photo but still wouldn't be my choice. From what I've seen in Japan she shouldn't even be in the running.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The only way these things can stay relevant. Beauty pageants are so fucking cringe and should be deleted in their entirety.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Beauty pageants are so fucking cringe and should be deleted in their entirety.

Yeah, they are cringe, but these are adults, not children. It's the same as a bodybuilder competition, as far as I'm concerned. Not for me, but as long as people aren't getting hurt, it's just entertainment. Just keep the kids out of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don’t yuck someone else’s yum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

This comment just absolutely disgusted me. Did you even read this crap before pressing submit?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So? Some yums deserved to be yucked. It's nasty and outdated and toxic - we don't want it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fuck the abusive mysgonstic comments. You're absolutely correct.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

except you speak for you and no one else, there is no "we", and a lot of ppl enjoy it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

We measure the popularity of literally every comment

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I speak for society as a whole. People enjoy dog fights and other unethical and toxic entertainment yet that's not an excuse to allow it. We're better off without it objectively speaking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

cmon, it's a silly strawman and you know it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Both promote suffering for entertainment. In both cases that means both contestants and societal impact.

In dog fights, dogs get killed and people seeing them normalized get desensitized towards animal cruelty.

In pageants, models are incentivized to starve themselves and to subject themselves to cosmetic surgery, and people seeing that normalized feel like they need to do the same because of body image issues.

I think the comparison is pretty spot on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

This is the first I've heard of the cosmetic surgery! I'm surprised they don't treat that like steroids in major sporting competitions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How? I genuinely believe there's no real value in shallow events like this. I'm from Thailand and their kinda big deal here but nothing positive ever came from one other than some memes. Fortunately pageants are in extreme decline and they'll be gone without any particular effort from us.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

tbh I'm more afraid of people who speak the truth on behalf of 'us'

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for being a part of my community and society I guess?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

even if you spoke for all of them (you don't) your initial comment would still make no sense lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Controversial among weebs and white racists maybe. I can't find any prominent Japanese publication or talking head decrying the decision.

The article tries to weasel its way out by saying "inside and outside of Japan" but it seems to be mostly people writing in English on Instagram who are riled up about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I wonder what percentage of the people writing in English about it are kids and creepy guys who use their alt account to post about being an Anime character stuck in a white person's body.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Pretending Japan isn't still incredibly xenophobic is quite the hill to die on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Nah, the weird terminally online hard right-wingers, the netouyo, are big mad about it. And they can stay mad.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

The netuyo are probably whinging about it, but I stay away from those corners of the internet. Osaka Naomi and others have faced issues as well. Mostly, from what I remember, it's been sports competitions where this comes up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Obviously a very progressive/inclusive decision, this person is as Japanese as living in Japan for 20 years can get you, the "controversy" is ridiculous and quite frankly racist, would be like if someone an ethincally Asian UK citizen won miss UK and then got accused of pushing an Eastern standard of beauty in an ethnically Anglo-Celtic-etc nation.

You have to be such a asshole to read

“I’ve had to face barriers that often prevent me from being accepted as Japanese, so I am filled with gratitude to be recognized at this competition as a Japanese person,” she said.

And then comment it's kinda fucked up she won this contest (as literally the first naturilzed person to do so) they should have given it to someone ethnically Japanese etc etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

would be like if someone an ethincally Asian UK citizen won miss UK and then got accused of pushing an Eastern standard of beauty in an ethnically Anglo-Celtic-etc nation.

I mean that is happening all the time. Especially if the winner is black. So the controversy isn't new. It's still racist and stupid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m not loving the ethnic fears coming from their slippery slope fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But if we let this happen, what's stopping an anime character winning the competition? Or a cat? Or robot? Where do we draw the line?!?

On second thoughts, a cat would be pretty awesome. They'll at least dominate the catwalk part of the competition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

what’s stopping an anime character winning the competition?

Literally nothing, as VTubers have proven.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Any of those options would make me significantly more interested.