Zionists don't argue in good faith.
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Antisemitism is a real problem.
With that being said, conflating antisemitism with antizionism is antisemitic in itself
Criticism and protests aimed at Israel are not antisemitic. Claiming the opposite means that you associate all jewish life with Israel, which again, might be a zionist standpoint, but is antisemitic.
One can very well protest against Israel's actions and call for a ceasefire. That is not antisemitic.
One can also protest against Israel's right to exist in its current form. Many jewish scholars have been calling for a one state solution in which all people "from the river to the sea" would exist as equals. That would indeed mean an end to Israel as it exists today since a new form of government and territorial administration would be needed for that to happen. That is again, not antisemitic. It might be antiozionist, but it isn't antisemitic. It is not calling for the expulsion of jewish people. It is not calling for massacres.
Antisemitism is:
- calling for the extermination, expulsion, or ethnic cleansing of all jewish life (from Israel or from abroad)
- associating jewish people with different conspiracy theories (controlling the world, Soros, money, etc.), which funnily enough many prominent Israel supporters do (Victor Orban of Hungary is a great example)
- conflating jewish life with Israel (this stems from the old theory used by the nazis that jewish people somehow have a hidden allegiance to another country/entity and not that of their own, thus labeling them as foreign agents)
Mobs of pro-Hamas students and faculty have marched by the hundreds through Harvard's campus, shouting vile antisemitic slogans and calling for death to Jews and Israel
I’m sorry, what? I have a hard time believing that. Hundreds of pro-Hamas students? Do they mean pro-Palestinian maybe? Which; let’s be clear is not the same thing.
So how about we make sure everyone feels safe on campus. Muslims, Jewish people, Palestinians, black people, Asians, gay people, every single human being. There is enough hate in the world as is, we don’t need to keep adding fuel to the fire.
I'm sorry, what? I have a hard time believing that. Hundreds of pro-Hamas students? Do they mean pro-Palestinian maybe? Which; let's be clear is not the same thing.
At this point the debate has gone off the rails:
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Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow are left-leaning U.S.-based Jewish organizations.
Many of the fiercest critics of Israeli policy in this country are Jewish. Noam Chomsky, Judith Butler, Naomi Klein. In November, Bernie Sanders demanded "an immediate end to Israel’s indiscriminate bombing, which is causing an enormous number of civilian casualties and is in violation of international law."
All of these Jewish people are antisemites according to the ADL.