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Ontario Premier Doug Ford says the province will permanently cancel its $100 million contract with Elon Musk’s Starlink, even if U.S. tariffs are lifted.

The decision follows Trump’s 25% tariffs on Canadian imports, which prompted Ontario to ban U.S. firms from contracts.

Ford cited Musk’s ties to Trump as a factor and said he is willing to fight potential legal fallout.

Musk previously responded to cancellation threats with a dismissive “Oh well.”

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Build your own starlink type system like the rest of the world is doing.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago

This is the right thing to do. Make responses permanent, otherwise trump will just continue his idiotic game of bouncing back and forth.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good. We Canadians should stop relying on the US. Time to focus on local industries.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Excellent. Best to deal with local industries than loco ones.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cross country trade scales the economy way better than doing things locally though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

In an isolated system, free from external dipshits sure.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With a stable partner, I’d say you are correct.

However if your partner is willing to weaponize that interdependency then the calculation changes.

China weaponized trade and used wolf warrior diplomacy during Covid in an attempt to gain influence. Russia weaponized energy with Europe. Now Trump is having the US do the same for “reasons” with Canada.

You’d think we would learn there is more up side to cooperation than conflict but here we are again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How did China weaponize trade?

Seems to me like they just provide better deals because they're willing to do the same or better quality work for less than their Western counterparts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The same way anything can be considered a weapon. They "harmed" other economies by undercutting them.

I don't necessarily agree that that behavior is harmful, but that is the reasoning behind calling it a weapon

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They “harmed” other economies by undercutting them.

Isn't that just competition? It's providing a better deal for customers. That should be seen as a good thing.

The opposite would be colluding on prices like a cartel.

If the "other economies" want to compete, the business owners should have to lower their prices and take less profit as a result. Again, this is a win for customers because we're not on the same side as the businesses selling us things.

It really is a backwards world, lol. I genuinely believe it's because so many people have gotten raw deals but don't want to acknowledge they've been taken for a ride.

It's easier to fool them than to convince them they've been fooled.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Isn't that just competition?

No no no, we only call it competition when it benefits the in-group

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Doug Ford is the world's biggest douche.

But this is how you get Musk to behave.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Fight douches with douches

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Doug Ford is the world’s biggest douche.

Interesting choice of words given this world has Trump and Musk, amongst others …

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

There's enough insults for everyone to have their own. The Premier of Western Australia said JD Vance is a knob and everyone seemed to agree. 😂

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

It's true.

Lots of high-profile douchebags in the world today.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Feel bad for the people at Starlink. I can imagine a few astro-nerds really enjoying their work there and then some moldy bigwig rich guy thinking the world is his sims 4 just fuckes you with tweeting.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Eh, idk. I'm sure there's smart people doing cool things at Starlink, but the actual product itself is basically a brute force approach to Internet access with a ton of downsides

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

He thinks it’s crusader kings 3

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't. The tech world has been aware that Musk is a piece of shit for more than a decade.

Anyone working for a Musk company approves of his craziness.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago

Or is stranded there on a H1B visa. Musk likes them both fanatical and vulnerable.

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