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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is china the only other country that makes EVs?

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

No, but they're so far ahead of anyone else it's unbelievable.

[–] Bransons404@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No but I think they're the cheapest. It'd be a good start. At this point any alternative would be I guess

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Yeah how do you think it's the cheapest? They have the most clever engineering methods or something?

No. It's cheap material, cheap labor, concessions on everything.

[–] Bransons404@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Not saying they're quality made. But cheap EVs would be nice compared to the over inflated car prices today, if they were cheap enough.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

China is a nation of around a billion people, most of whom we would consider middle class, and 22% of the overall fleet is electric, with new car sales being higher. The economies of scale for manufacturing are huge.

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[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Right? Why the focus on Chinese EVs? Do no European EVs exist? No Japanese EVs? Why not just open the doors for all EVs, regardless of what country it's from, and then customers can make informed decisions on which EV to get based on whatever criteria they wish? Get the competition going!

[–] uis@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago

Wasn't India or other asian country making some?

[–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Bad idea. China isn't better than the US, and their EVs are a safety and security risk in and of themselves.

I can imagine Canada being in a position to collaborate with friendly countries to develop a safe, secure and open alternative to Tesla and "CCP-mobiles". If that becomes a reality, everyone benefits.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's an awful idea. The Chinese EVs constantly break down. There's no shortage of EVs From Europe. Also, considering Canada already makes all of the parts, it would be nice to see them create their own car manufacturers.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Goverment can pass a law that says EVs should be opensource, so they can be audited. Wait, western capitalists have allergy to disclosing sourcecode. WaitΒ², this would expose how unsafe american EVs are.

[–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It feels unrealistic. Remember EU's DMA which targeted Apple's app installation restrictions? That Act still has done nothing of value and Apple has so far given the EU a middle finger. Isn't open sourcing Tesla a much bigger ask?

Laws must be enforceable, otherwise what's the point...

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Isn't open sourcing Tesla a much bigger ask?

The goal is not to make specifically Tesla opensource. The goal is to make all EVs sold in country opensource. And there WILL be at least one company willing to do so in hope to get entire country's market to themselves. Likely many of them. And it will solve root of problem in data privacy.

[–] n_emoo@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dont think anyone is advocating for lowering auto safety standards to allow Chinese EVs on roads. Lets be realistic in acknowledging that Chinese made vehicles are already in use in many parts of the world and provide comparable security and privacy standards as their American counterparts (viz. None).

[–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With enough oversight, I can buy the safety part. Without rigid oversight, you may end up with self-igniting batteries. When it comes to security, America is a low bar.

There is also an ethical component to the critique of Chinese goods in general, which concerns the CCPs actions and policies. Let's not ignore that.

My point was, China is not better than the US. I'm sure Canada can do better than that, if they cooperate with other countries.

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Why not both?

[–] Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

If they care about the environment at all they will. If they care about their people at all, they already would have.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please please please...BYD is making super cheap Tesla killers. I'd love to get my hands on one.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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