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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If someone believes that USA was "blessed with stable government", then ofc they believe that some daddy is going to save them. These delusions are closely related.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Inertia rules human behavior.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The people have to be the adults

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

True. But hard when they've only ever been in a daycare.

It's interesting the maturity, views and domestic priorities of an American that has travelled to other parts of the globe and one that has never left. To some, the daycare is their world, so it's hard to imagine them acting as though they're in "the real world".

The daycare relies on that.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

A democracy, if we can keep it.

Half the voting population doesn’t want to keep it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's arguably more than that. A lot of the people who voted Democrat don't want democracy either, they just want their neoliberals to be the ones fucking them instead of the loud crazies.

America rn is the result of over four decades of divisive propoganda efforts coming to fruition. Entire generations have grown up believing the wealthy elites of our nation are untouchable. We've been a plutocracy for at least a decade now, the mask has just fallen off.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago

Well that's just an insane way to think about it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

closer to a 1/3rd not a 1/2 but yeah

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it was not half of voting population; go and research how US voting “works”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Where do you think I’m from? More than half the people who got off their ass and went and voted, voted for this self declared dictator. I never said half the country.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Half the people meaning half of the absolute number of people who went voting, which is not true

Since each state votes for their members of the Electoral College, it could happen that, if you count each person who voted directly, you get no way near 50% voting for the president that gets elected

This voting system is stupid, the idea of a law to pardon people as president is even more stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yes that’s possible, thanks for the civics lesson. It’s not what I was talking about.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, he ended up below 50%. He had the plurality though. If you include RFK Jr. votes with Trump (which some people do for some reason) it'd be over half, but I wouldn't. People voting for him explicitly weren't voting for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Please, forgive me for not googling, it would appear he only got 49.8% of the popular, not the 50% I so callously pulled from my butt.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the fallacy ..... it was never a democracy

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

No worries. The kingdoms that replace democracy will be responsible and enlightened. /s

(Sadly, a real thing.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s what the congress is for. The problem is that the president can easily bypass it with executive orders.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

Also Congress is complicit.

[–] [email protected] 160 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The myth of checks and balances.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again, it’s enforced by willingness, a want to uphold the US Constitution.

Once you decide you’re done doing that the US Constitution is done.

It is done. Everyone will continue to sit on their asses waiting for a correction that will never come. It’s already broken. And people act like it’s not because they know no other way to be.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean the checks and balances are definitely there. They've just been taken over too. You just can't have democracy without the people having faith in democracy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Yeah... Kinda miffs people blaming the balances and checks. Like, they are there. They're just being ignored. Lmfao. Cause some dipshits gave the fascists all 3 branches

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

The myth of checks and balances.

The myth of (checks notes) every single admirable or positive aspect I was raised to believe was true about our system of government and our values as a nation.

I'm in my 50s. Somewhere WAY down the list of shit that I'm absolutely furious about is that I can no longer pretend that a single thing about US values or the resilient and balanced design of our government has turned out to be true.

Every single thing that has ever benefitted non-wealthy non-white non-male non-straight or non-cis people in the US has been hard won with blood over decades or centuries. And we're well on the way to undoing nearly all of those after not even two months of a despot in office.

Every thing I have ever been taught about what made the US great or special or even good has been a lie. It's very plain to see now. It turns out we had some elected people superficially following the rules, and that was really the only thing keeping it all together.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

hijacks thread

Whoa. Instance switch? Or impostor? 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Honestly, I am just hoping that the new country/countries that emerge from the smoking heap of America will try harder to enshrine democracy. Likely that will take decades.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

It feels alot like margaret atwood wasn't writing fiction at the moment. The religious and/or far right wing seems to be getting their way over there and it honestly feels like the handmaids tale is their vision. At least that is my take here from the other side of the pond.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Their vision is basically Saudi Arabia.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

she largely wasn't. she was writing a warning and no one took it.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The checks and balances were there, but they've been methodically corrupted and dismantled over decades without anyone doing anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That’s just it. There is no perfect government. The government is made of humans, and humans are imperfect. Any government, no matter how pure/noble its founding intentions, will eventually become corrupt need to be replaced.

We’re finally feeling that in America after a good 250 year run.

Alexis de Tocqueville, a Frenchman sent to analyze the American government in its early days— specifically studying its checks and balances—called it way back in 1835. There’s nothing to stop tyranny in America. Well worth reading his writings, “Democracy in America.”

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Democracy is a mental construct. It only constrains you if you believe in it. But it can give you over power as long as you convince enough people to do it. It will, however, never be restored once broken through violent means without the use of violent means.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

States, rule of law, democracy (and every other government type) and constitutions are mental constructs. They are linked together by the idea of a natural dependency. The only thing upholding any and all of these is the willingness to uphold the oath sworn by all those granted public authority, be that legislature, executive or judicial. They all check each other - in theory. Which is why they swear on the constitution - not a person - because that is the very thing that granted them the power and that acts as the web that weaves them all together.

If they stop checking and balancing each other than there's nothing holding the statedom together - there's afterall no natural consequence to breaking the web

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