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See title - very frustrating. There is no way to continue to use the TV without agreeing to the terms. I couldn't use different inputs, or even go to settings from the home screen and disconnect from the internet to disable their services. If I don't agree to their terms, then I don't get access to their new products. That sucks, but fine - I don't use their services except for the TV itself, and honestly, I'd rather by a dumb TV with a streaming box anyway, but I can't find those anymore.

Anyway, the new terms are about waiving your right to a class action lawsuit. It's weird to me because I'd never considered filing a class action lawsuit against Roku until this. They shouldn't be able to hold my physical device hostage until I agree to new terms that I didn't agree at the time of purchase or initial setup.

I wish Roku TVs weren't cheap walmart brand sh*t. Someone with some actual money might sue them and sort this out...

EDIT: Shout out to @[email protected] for recommending the brand "Sceptre" when buying my next (dumb) TV.

EDIT2: Shout out to @[email protected] for recommending LG smart TVs as a dumb-TV stand in. They apparently do require an agreement at startup, which is certainly NOT ideal, but the setup can be completed without an internet connection and it remembers input selection on powerup. So, once you have it setup, you're good to rock and roll.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I like everyone saying “but this is surely illegal!” as if these corporations actually care. At least in the US, it really doesn’t matter what the law says at this point.

Corporations will do what they want and the law will be modified to reflect that, this is the current status quo and it is going to take significant political action (specifically making rich people afraid again to piss the rest of us off too much) to make it change.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would like to see legislation that forces optional recalls or refunds whenever TOS updates modify the usability and viability of a product.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Honestly I feel like the real reason they are working everyone down to the bone is so they don't have time to go to small claims court. If everyone did that individually these companies would die so quickly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

2024: the year of the raspberry pi tv

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

You still need a TV though. OP cannot switch inputs.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I have a dumb 4k tv. It’s cheap, it won’t meet everyone’s needs, but I really really really don’t want a smart tv.

It’s a Sceptre. Cheap enough that if it breaks it won’t break your heart to replace it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Funny, I got a large Toshiba with fire TV because it was the cheapest option when I was looking, loaded with surveillance capitalism from Amazon.

Regretted it immediately, I would pay double for a dumb tv next time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

My tv is wonky as hell sometimes. I have to spray the volume button with contact cleaner from time to time or it turns itself up or down.

It’s fine other than that though haha.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Starting it up without an internet connection will prevent the pop-up from locking you out of your own device

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

You have 30 days to opt out by sending a letter to:

General Counsel, Roku Inc.
1701 Junction Court, Suite 100
San Jose, CA 95112

Letter must include:

  • Name of each person opting out, contact info
  • product model
  • software version
  • email address (optional)
  • copy of receipt (optional)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shit like this is why my LG C1 is restricted to LAN access only in my router (local network for automation purposes) and can't communicate with the internet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the purpose of roku is to stream though, so it needs Internet. Unless it can serve local stuff, that I uave no idea about.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

This is referring to the Roku built into many TVs. So you have no choice but to deal with it at least a little bit for switching between your HDMI/PC inputs. The reason this case is so bad is that it literally prevents you from using any input or device until you find the Roku remote that came with the TV and click accept. The TV is a "brick" until you do this.

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