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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I'm Canadian and I don't think we should be doing this in the middle of winter. Plus it's going to affect blue states, which will only make the MAGA fuckface idiots glad that the libs are being owned.

We should repeal US IP protection laws instead and cut out their potash. Make technofeudalists and rural conservatives scream.

[–] VubDapple 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Thank you. Californian over here. I am disgusted with what our government and the magtards that voted them in are doing. Do what you need to do to defend yourselves but please keep in mind Americans are not all awful.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What Canada needs to start doing is violating US copyright and stealing their IP. Sell jailbreaks for American hardware.

That was part of the free-trade deal, so why would Canada keep up that side of the bargain?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

One jailbreak for Quest 3, pls. 😋

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure Minnesota imports something like 60% of our energy - i'm at least glad we're past the worst of the winter weather but holy fuck is it going to suck

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Let the southern bastards freeze in the dark...not permanently, just a brief period, followed by an export tax. Cut power once in March, then again throughout the NBA playoffs in April.

At this point we should do this whether or not Trump reverses course. Make it clear there is nothing he can do to avoid it.

I'm sick of this market fuckery back and forth. I'm convinced he's trying to depress the Canadian dollar and the value of Canadian companies and industries, so that oligarchs in the US can buy them up. It's a hostile corporate takeover of our country. Fuck him, we need to go hard - permanent tariffs as long as Trump is in office...and we need legislation to ensure 51% Canadian ownership of strategic resources, as well as no American investment right now. If necessary, we need to nationalize strategic resources and industries.

What we don't need is a fucking tax break for the rich. We're on a war footing right now and our leaders need to accept this. The people have largely accepted it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Southern states are not the ones receiving the bulk of Canada’s energy coming into the United States.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/mapping-us-canada-energy-relationship

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think they meant southern states. All the states are south of Canada

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ahhhhhh shit. Ameribrain at it again. Thanks for pointing that out.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think he actually cares about Canada specifically. The point is to alienate the US from its allies and reduce any kind of powerful diplomatic mediators or military deterrents so Russia and similar traditionally colonial powers can just start seizing whatever territory they want.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think there are two things he wants here..and by "things he wants" I mean things that will make him and/or his wealthy oligarch buddies rich and grow their power.

The first and more near-term goal is the upcoming tax cuts for the rich, which will be trillions of dollars. To fund this, he sees at least three vehicles, that he has been pushing despite the failings of all three: (1) savings from DOGE, (2) the new gold visas, and (3) tariff income. All of these ideas are absolutely dogshit for creating income, but he seems to think they will. In his previous time in office, he even tried to use tariffs in this way. He sees tariffs as income and he's made it clear. He knows the tax cuts will be hugely unpopular so he has to build up a story as to how they can be afforded. In the meantime if a bunch of rich short sellers make money off of market manipulation, so much the better.

The second goal, and probably more in line with the objectives of the oligarchy in the US as a whole, is to make Canada even more subservient economically to the US. They want a quiet corporate takeover of Canada. They want to depress the value then but it all up, after which we're even more fucked than we are now. We need to cut this option off and just accept that we need to nationalize these industries, and restrict or even exclude American investment. I think the Canadian government should own at least 51% of key strategic resources, such as telecom, oil, hydro, potash, and media.

In summary, the Americans are now our enemies and should be considered as such. They want to damage our country and assume control of it. They are outright saying this. We need to stop being so fucking naive, and take solid action to prevent it.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.... America needs to learn, I say this as an American.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't think there's going back to any level of normal. Maybe by quickly destroying the system, we will be able to quickly rebuild it (after all the destruction to everyone's lives)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Elon and Trump seem to be intentionally destroying the system, or are so profoundly stupid that they've pulled a "We did it Patrick! We saved the city!"

Honestly with those two I can never tell if they're being dumb or malicious.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can definitely tell that they are always being malicious. Sociopaths like them doesnt do humanitarian acts, it is always exclusively about themselves

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Him blanket accusing a guy of pedophilia simply because he was getting more attention and didn't wanna use a Musk made submarine was everything I needed to see to know he'd turn out like this

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

New York, the blue state? Canada is likely bluffing, as that's a wet dream for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Michigan, a swing state, is in the crosshairs as well. They already have frequent major outages in the Detroit metropolitan. I don't think this will help.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Western NY is super red. Saw loads of Trump flags on lawns in 2022, not even a presidential election year. Very kind and friendly people though.

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