Why not instead, the people responsible?
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Please explain how in a non-capitalist world, AI would never be used for the sorts of things you dislike AI being used for such as job elimination. You think nobody will realize that it can be used to produce lots of art, for example?
In this non-capitalist world you're thinking of, would we have any automation? Like do we have harvester combines, or is it still 35 people breaking their backs to cut and thresh an acre of wheat?
Job elimination is a problem in capitalism because workers need jobs to survive. In a socialist society, job elimination can be a good thing, as it allows us to either increase access to resources or reduce how much time people need to work without dispossessing the people whose jobs were eliminated.
The difference is that, in capitalism, workers only survive by proving their usefulness to capitalists making money. Automation is thus a threat to worker bargaining power. If the means of production were socially owned (through for example government run utilities or worker coops), worker bargaining power is then through a vote or through ownership. It is possible to by default distribute the spoils of automation rather than concentrate them in the hands of capitalists.
If the means of production are collectively owned, and thus directed towards the good of society, job elimination isn't as much of a problem.
Socialists are huge proponents of automation, because instead of being used to cut jobs for profit, dirty and hard jobs can be eliminated.
Then why are we angry at AI in this discussion?
this post reads like chatgpt output 🐟
This post is written by an AI. Lmao
"Are you scared of an AI world? You're already in it."
Feels like a bit of a straw man argument. I don't meet people who accuse the actual AI itself of malice. That would be like getting mad with an actor who portrays a villain. I know these people exist and they are stupid but most people understand that that the A in AI stands for artificial and that means scientists and engineers make these things and capitalists provide the funding and own them.
The interesting thing about AI is that once it becomes self aware, we can legitimately insert agency into its actions in the way we do with people. We can criminalise it and punish it for decisions that it has made. We could use artificial lawyers to prosecute artificial doctors that perform botched surgeries on artificial warehouse workers.
This is actually an unpopular opinion sadly, on Lemmy as well in the outside world. A rare case of a post on this community where I ca upvote both because it's unpopular and I agree with it.
I don’t know, there’s plenty of anti-billionaire sentiment, fuck_cars is basically anti-capitalist, and most of the environmentalists get to the same conclusion pretty quickly too.
The realists (and cynics in some cases) just know that it’s going to take a huge process to shift us away. I’m a realist and am opting for a progressive takeover that leads to taxing billionaires, carbon/pollution, and dangerous vehicles (among other clear hazards) out of existence.
But when I’m feeling cynical, I get worried that it’s going to take a war to happen, and I hope for my son’s sake that doesn’t happen.
Depends on where you live I suppose. Irrational AI hate is something I only really encounter online. Then again my country has pretty good worker protections, so there's less reason to be afraid of AI.
It’s pretty evident that AI is incompatible with capitalism, but most people direct their anger at AI. Late-stage capitalism is the problem, not automation. I upvoted because I think this is actually an unpopular opinion factoring in the world population rather than just Lemmy.
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