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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Is he suggesting that his actions are bringing about the apocalypse? If so, I agree.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of the women I've dated have enough post apocalyptic potential either. One of them said they would kill themselves if a zombie apocalypse started. It takes a strong person for that, man or woman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you implying suicide is a weak option? I don't believe so. It's not a stronger stance to side with a survival instinct; you could say it's actually the easiest thing to do. It requires nothing more than to exploit our biology (adrenaline, aggression, etc.). Not to downplay the complexity of all of us animals, but it's not extraordinary to behave like that, just as a lion or a rat would do too.

The other option requires something unique to humanity (until now and as far as we know) that is to question our actions, to reflect upon them, to give them a personal value, and to make decisions upon all of this. Few animals commit suicide and probably most do so due to a pathological state and not a philosophical argument behind. To embrace this is very hard; it goes against our body's program.

I won't say it's necessarily stronger, but neither is it weaker. I admire the honesty and bravery of doing such questions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Suicide is definitely the weakest option someone can take. Maybe you've never been suicidal, but I have, and that feeling is so strong. It wouldn't feel like anything to end it, just a release. But it takes absolutely everything to keep going.

You may have a point about surviving being instinctual, and therefore someone who is too dumb to even consider suicide in any situation, isn't stronger for not having the thought. But I really don't think that's most people. I think most people that would have to struggle to survive an apocalypse, would absolutely be pushing through the urge to end it. Unless all that's left is savages, suicide is weak as hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I guess you're right that it takes an enormous effort to hold on to life in those situations. It reminded me of the book by Viktor Frankl, the one about his observations on who died and who lived while he was in a concentration camp. Man's Search for Meaning. Although I wouldn't say all cases of letting go are weak. Sometimes depressive states are like allergies, an organic reaction to low light, lack of nutrients, etc. But I can now see your point.

The thing I cannot agree with is the ulterior reason. You speak, and probably many people would do too, as if life were an obligation or the right path to follow. As if staying alive was the point, and therefore to submit to the desire to leave or to escape was inherently wrong or mistaken. But there's no mandate to live in my book. Whoever decides to persevere in life has the right to do so, but, to me, it is just as valid to leave because there is no point in being born nor in dying (again, as far as we know) anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah. Life is a gift. Whether you believe it's from your mother, the universe, god, or chance; it's a gift. Squandering that gift, because in the moment it doesn't feel like there is any reason to live, is the worst thing someone can do. Human beings are capable of finding happiness in the most brutal situations; it's not natural for someone to feel suicidal and should always be treated like a sickness.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Holy hell Elon has a galactically discrepant self-image.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Lmao. In a post apocalyptic setting, Elon Musk is a trophy.

He'd be paraded around on a leash.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Think Channing Tatum in This is the End.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, what is Grimes up to?

It’s not often a woman breaks a man so badly he has to find a surrogate for his “x”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends on who caught him. He'd be paraded around on a leash if he was lucky

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Guess he'd be lucky with me then.

I'd even scavenge the stores to get him a little "Musky" tag for his leash.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to be a warlord. I want to be a lovelord.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Like, we all joke. But Musk's a carnival barker at heart. He'd fit right in alongside the Colonel Qaddafi and General Butt Naked crowd. The Northern Alliance was overflowing with ego-bloated horn dogs. The Columbian cartels are rife with tin pot business goons.

You could change Noriega or Pahlavi or Bong Bong Marcos out with Elon Musk and nobody would notice a difference. Hell, there's a reason a guy like Milei is bro-ing out Elon every chance he gets. They're the same kind of guy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You underestimate the atrophy having no financial needs or stress concerning any real aspect of survival can create. If we go back to caveman times, no one that has never experienced a blister on their feet is going to be surviving very long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I don't think "caveman times" is in the cards in Elon's lifetime

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

"I am setting this country up for anarchy with governance by warlords. "

I wouldn't even pick Elon in a fight with Meal Team 6.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I've probably got twice the warlord potential he has. Which is to say, I have really shit warlord potential.

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