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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

This is hilarious

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Or, better yet, watch the full video instead : https://www.youtube.com/live/hzkCsIv365c

I don't believe in the 25 infringements to the ceasefire(, but i don't know his arguments, only that the OSCE recorded more attacks from the ukrainian side in their ~millions of infringements recorded), and there's the risk, from the russian side, of giving them more time to build an army, so here's an idea among others :

Ukraine is demilitarized, and promise not to join NATO(, promises are cheap). But NATO troops, and/or from the UN, will be tasked with protecting the border.
However, for Russia to accept losing Ukraine, referendums could/should be held in the border lands to ask tgeir population if they prefer to rejoin their old russian side or the new western side. And these referendums should be held again every ~5-10 years after that, with a total acceptance of russian medias in them. There would then be debates between pro&anti russian, and about the modalities(, e.g. the forms of autonomy, outside//inside the Russian federation).
And whatever the results of these referendums ends up being, the anti-russian part of Ukraine should be left with an access to the sea(, unlike Bolivia).
They don't want to be forced to choose a side against their will, but also want to force others like Odessa to follow Lviv, even in the case of their inhabitants refusing the same NATO that bombed Serbia, Lybia, etc. Ukrainians are more russians than europeans, there's the possibility of creating something else.
There's also the expectations of Transnistria, which could become a part of Russia.

It's just some thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

One thing that pops out quite strongly to me is that when Trump tells Zelensky that they aren't winning the war, Zelensky responds with

We are staying in our country. We are staying strong

Zelensky can't even say in public that they are winning, or have a chance of winning. Only that the fighting will continue. He wants to continue bleeding Ukrainian lives no matter what. He has no rebuke to Trump's statement that they are wasting life, or gambling with WW3. It's a testament of how delusional you have to be that Trump is coming across as the reasonable voice of peace when dealing with you!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

LOL. We're taking away the nickname "Big Balls" from Elon's 19-yo DOGE buddy and giving it to Zelensky.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

Is Macron secretly working for Putin? Because otherwise insisting on this meeting was the own goal of the century

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol, they fucking kicked him out of the White House

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

And of course Sheepdog Sanders has to come out and show how much of a neocon agenda loyalist he is now:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

Wouldn't the Yugoslavia War with bombing from NATO at least compete for the title of "bloodiest European war"?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

They keep talking about Russian imperialism but I don’t understand what they mean 😭

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Such a disappointment of a man.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

Holy fuck what a shitshow that was. Why do they even let this clown speak in public anymore? Every time he opens his mouth things get worse for Ukraine. If his handlers had any brains they would only ever let him read off scripts in front of a green screen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

I know the whole thing about Trump being a narcissist is kind of surface level problems with the US, but I rarely actually sit through listening to him speak and it's striking how on the nose the characteristics are. It seems clear he wants to humiliate the guy in front of a large audience and make him kiss the ring, and that's why it's not a private meeting. Though in actuality, to me, it humiliates everyone involved in the discussion; they all come out looking ridiculous in various ways. It's like one of those internet arguments that feels important to the people involved in the moment, but just looks like petty noise from the outside.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

What's that quote about wrestling a pig in the mud?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

Why is that conversation even being filmed & broadcast, other than to publicly flog a vassal? This is unpresidented!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

I really, really hope that it'll speed up the US dumping Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like a family arguing about politics with the shit analysis that comes with it, but in the oval office.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

yea straight up sitcom dialogue 😂

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

lmao these guys are so ridiculously incompetent, this discussion is so petty lmao

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

If it weren’t for TV, neither of these guys would ever have been politicians at all, never mind presidents. Pure spectacle.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I love the Ukrainian embassador's face.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

This was literally me as I was watching. I couldn’t help but keep cringing, sometimes I had to physically look away.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

In all seriousness, I finally watched the exchange and WOW the secondhand embarrassment I felt was strong. I had to watch this in 1.5x speed because it was so bad. I don’t think I’ve witnessed a more uncomfortable and unproductive conversation in my life. I had no faith in Trump, or Vance, to have a proper conversation about ending the war but this was worse than I expected. None of these people know what diplomacy is, also Vance lecturing Zelenskyy for a “thank you”, like he’s a child, was hard to watch and so stupid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

🤡🤡🤡

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

JFC that's cringe. It really lays bare how it's just failsons all over.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

Absolute. Fucking. Scenes. Lmaoooooo

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