Lemmy people are not happy because this guy is
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2025
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Non-depressed Lemmy users when depressed people act depressed:
I think it has something to do with the guy saying he thought of his daughter.
Like, motherfucker, how was your child not at the forefront to begin with? If you were prepared to end your own life you were prepared to abandon your child.
I get it, though. It is sending a good message through a personal story. But it is fucked up, though much like the topic of suicide itself, so it is probably inescapable.
I get it, though. It is sending a good message through a personal story. But it is fucked up, though much like the topic of suicide itself, so it is probably inescapable.
The message was botched, though. The cartoonist said they can show evidence that "we" (the passive you, whatever) can change our lives, but the only evidence was about themself. I believe they don't know shit about anyone elses life or problems and are falling on survivor bias saying "just do what I did!".
Wow you weren't kidding. Bunch of depressed commenters with a mentality of "change is hard" makes you understand how they got depressed to begin with.
Depression isn't caused by laziness. There's clinical trials and everything, fascinating stuff if you want to look into it.
Misery likes company, not perspective. Fuck happiness, yeah?
People do prefer company to being told. I lost my brother to suicide, really messed me up bad. I did some volunteer work on a suicide prevention service, and people really just want a little bit of your time in the immediate sense, and social support structure long term. Most people have this with families, but it can get really bad when that falls apart due to anything negative in that space of their life.
I know the saying is supposed to mean ''you'd rather make other people miserable than work on yourself'' but in a social sense, company works a lot better than telling someone it's not working and walking away.
I think honestly another way to put it is that pain and suffering are merely unpleasant signals intended to actually prevent you from dying. Death itself is a lovecraftian horror.
I think I'll take the unpleasant signals.
That makes death sound far too attractive.
Are you sure that's not some kind of kink of yours?
That if anything, I don't really like people in that way but even with a Lovecraftian horror I'd prefer just to cuddle with it and be friends and destroy the world together (not that I'd be very helpful with the latter).
Death itself is a lovecraftian horror.
Death is what you make of it.
I'm not sure what you mean. But I suspect that is cope.
I do believe this was made with best intentions but it has major "just be happy" energy and is made from a position of privilege.
Just getting a therapist for example is a huge battle. Having supportive friends is not ubiquitous. Changing jobs is risky and in certain financial circumstances almost impossible, especially with dependents.
That said I approve of the message that without living there is no possibility of things getting better. My advice is to focus on small maybe even tiny victories daily making lifestyle changes where possible.
And I do believe, that it's not the comic that was made from the position of privilege, but your fucking comment. Who the hell are you to approve it or not and spread out your advice instead? Come on, check yourself first
Ok, what do you mean by checking myself first?
I just commented on how I personally perceived the comic. I also said that I believe that the comic was made with good intentions.
Ultimately, I am just someone on the Internet. I have no illusion that my comments here matter. Though, I do have first and second hand experience with depression and suicide if that matters, which it does not.
And yes in many ways I am extremely privileged when it comes to this topic, e.g. my healthcare insurance is not tied to my employer as I don't live in the US. I would like to know how that has anything to do with my comment above though.
I respectfully disagree. Its thesis is simply that you can have a better life if you stay alive. The "proof" is simply all the changes the artist went through in order to find a better life. The changes aren't supposed to be a recipe on how to make your life better - I don't think the artist is telling people to divorce their spouses. There isn't anything "just be happy" about getting a divorce.
Fair enough, I think yours is also a valid interpretation.
I just want to clarify: with "just be happy" energy, I meant the tendency of people to suggest seemingly simple fixes to others struggling with mental health. Even, if they work for oneself and even if it works statistically (for example sport is a good habit against depression), it feels like talking the problem down. But that is highly subjective of course.
Yeah. That makes sense. It is definitely a real problem.
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