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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Cars are the ultimate symbol of freedom because you just get in and go wherever to do whatever.

Pick nanna up? sure. Go buy her groceries? Sure. In the pouring rain? Ok. Pick up her dog from the vet? Yep. Drop by the garden store and grab 50kg of fertilizer? You bet.

You can do all of those things with out any planning or notice. You just get in and go wherever the day takes you.

I'm a bit bonkers about bikes. I have a cargo e-bike. It absolutely could do all of these things in separate trips. Doing all of them together would be a challenge but I am 100% here for that so long as nanna is. The main difference is planning. You need different gear, like a bike trailer for example. You're also probably going to pick the right time of day, like early before it gets too hot or too windy, provided that it's not raining.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Because people with disabilities and chronic illness exist, and because depending on the distance it’s not possible to go by bike and depending on the terrain it’s also no possible. Oh and the weather I forgot the weather… oh and in some roads, like highways, for example, these can’t even drive there:..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

These are great arguments for one not to cycle for routine trips of daily life.

Good cyclist advocates don't shame one for not cycling for everything. They know why people don't do it. It's because they feel like they're gonna die! And they're not totally wrong in feeling that way.

Good bike advocates lobby for better infrastructure to mitigate these concerns.

E.g. winter weather in particular is addressed just by keeping bike routes paved the same as car lanes. Places that do this see negligible drops in cycling rates even at below freezing temps.

GOOD bike infrastructure is always worth it. It always reduces car trips. Every mile one bikes or walks instead of drives is taxpayer money saved.

Car infrastructure is very limiting to people with disabilities, more so than cycling.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some people with disabilities can't drive. Young and old people can't drive. If anything bikes are more accessible.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Bikes aren't the perfect transportation method for everyone all the time but they are a good option for most people most of the time. Also, I have a chronic illness and I ride year round in a place that regularly hits -40

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Make no problem with bikes in Florida, when you arrive you are so drenched in sweat you are no longer presentable and stink to high heaven.

Biking to work if you have an office job is out of the question.

Biking to my gym or KungFu school.... Perfect.

Just need the right tool for the right job.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

$20 gas gets me much, much, much further than $20 in eating high carb prepared food when riding my bike between point A and B. Not fuel efficient, in fact, energy expensive, but it is over all cheaper than a car if you can handle the potential physical abuse of riding a quarter mile up hill to your house. I did this last year while my car was in the shop, I learned I lived at the top of a hill, in the middle of a valley. Lost around 14lbs in a week just running errands, and I was carb loading like crazy. Carbs, meat, sugars, and tons of water. Riding a bike is all laughs and giggles until you're doing it to get meat and milk to fuel your required errands and despite eating everything in sight you're still losing weight at a shocking pace... They had my car a month, I was able to hold out on most errands until around just before the final week, went from 179, to 165. Kept eating as I felt I needed and was back up to 175 in about a week after getting my car back, and with recent exercise and pushing myself I dropped to 169 while increasing my max weight, it's really only surprising when you find I was 280ish lbs just 6 yrs ago... I digress, bikes are tough on the body.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This doesn't match my experience. I eat more when I ride, but not enough to make it a concern.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Anyone who has ridden in rain and adverse weather would know one reason cars are more popular.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Picking up a week's worth of shopping for a family, whilst taking your baby with you, in the pouring rain, and you live up a steep hill, and you have joint pain, and a sudden work meeting across the other side of town in an hour...

I'd love a city designed round bicycles (Cambridge, UK is quite good like that in the centre) but man, despite the downsides cars are amazing things.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (11 children)

car go further faster, and car more useful when not in big city.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yes, but have you considered this extremely selective list of positive features for bikes?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (13 children)

For this, bike friendly cities have good public transport (bus/tram/metro) and bike shares

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Not probably, a human riding a bicycle is the most efficient way to convert energy into movement. No other vehicle or animal can be as efficient.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Thats why I have a bike-sled team to pull my horribly inefficient sled across the asphalt

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