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Okay, this is not an iPhone vs Android Phone debate. I respect your right to choose whichever platform that you want.


I mean, iPhone seems so antithetical with the idea of freedom. You have to connect it to a server to even use it, all apps have to go through a centralized server, no option to install whatever apps you want, which means, you literally cannot have any third-party apps without an online account.

Most of my fellow americans seems to love the idea of freedom so much, yet just buy into a closed ecosystem with no freedom? 🤔

Like almost 60% of Americans use iPhone, kinda weird to preach freedom when you cant even have an app without a corporation's approval. If it were any other country, I wouldn't find it weird, but for a country that's obsessed with the idea of freedom (so much so that they disobeyed mask mandates), it's really weird to be using a device with zero freedom.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Freedom is not one thing. The choice between iOS and Android is not a choice between zero freedom and unlimited freedom. You’re simply choosing which freedoms you want to prioritize.

I’m planning to switch to an Android device running an alternative OS with my next purchase after using iPhone exclusively since the 3g. That’s driven by a change in priorities: I want the freedom that comes from using a phone that isn’t a surveillance and advertising vehicle. For years now though, I’ve been enjoying the freedom of knowing my phone will continue to receive updates for a minimum of 5 years after I buy it new while some of my Android friends will be lucky if they get two.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 minutes ago (1 children)

Your definition of freedom is an interesting one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

Yep! Like I said, freedom is more than one thing. The way this questions is framed tries to put the blinders on and obscure that fact, creating a false equivalency between the freedom to sideload software and some abstract notion of “absolute freedom” which doesn’t actually exist. We’re rarely choosing between absolute freedom and zero freedom, certainly not in this case.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

The iPhone came out before Android, so Apple had first mover advantage it could solidify to a sticky user base.

Also, a "free" Android experience only occurs when you've got full control of everything. Android was a lot more willing to give up control to third parties, including carriers. With Apple, you're only giving control to one company.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

I can only speak for myself and my kids. I have an iPhone because my work gave me one for free. They only support iPhone for security reasons. Keeping Android devices up to date across a large fleet is challenging leaving security gaps. For my kids they wanted my old iPhones because it’s what all their friends have.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because they are easily gullible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Whatever you say, Mr. President!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago

Until there is a better alternative to the new evil that is google/alphabet, apple is a lesser evil.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

The binary choice is the freedom. As many people in this thread have discussed, it’s not a real choice, but it’s simple enough that most people will put on blinders and accept the available options.

I use iPhone. It sucks but network effect from people in my circle brought me here

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