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[–] [email protected] 3 points 34 minutes ago

I for one cheer and root for my flip phone friends.

I'd never do it, but we have one at work and he's singlehandedly causing so much grief at work. Because none of the engineers wanna use a security app for login. They want a fob.

IT refuses to pay for fobs and wants us to use an app, but they also don't want to pay for a phone for anyone in engineering just to use the security app because it opens a floodgate of people with company phones.

It's just wonderful to watch this fight from the sidelines sipping tea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

I am still using a flip phone. My new goal is to make it to 2027 marking two decades of rejecting the smartphone era. Each time I consider compromising something gets even more awful about smartphones and I double down on saying no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm shocked.

Right off the top of my head, I can mention an entire finacial institution that only exists through an app. No website, no physical locations, no nothing. It's one app and that is it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

everyone wants to force you to use apps instead of websites, despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of apps are just websites..in a app wrapper, because normal websites and normal browsers have inbuilt protections for you.

Apps don't.

Idiots install apps, give them the 400,000 permissions they ask for, then go on their merry way..ignorant to the fact that they just installed a data vacuum on their phone thats siphoning everything off of it to be used and sold and resold for marketing purposes.. Even the phone itself its not safe, cause its sitting there, listening to your conversations, even when not on a call, to more "Accurately" spam you with bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

I'm in California where we have a grocery chain, Safeway. They've had a loyalty card for decades, which works great, gets you good deals, can be scanned by the checkout clerk or at self checkout. It also racks up points which can be used for discounts.

About 2 years ago I started seeing signs in the store offering even greater savings through the app. There will sometimes be 2 signs side by side for the loyalty card vs the app. The app is always a better deal.

So I downloaded the app and learned

  • the app cannot scan your membership at self checkout, you have to be checked out by a clerk
  • the app's membership number is different from your loyalty card number and the two cannot be merged.
  • because of that your points can't be transferred to the app

It's the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card? Isn't that the whole point behind loyalty? I literally shop at Safeway less often now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Food Lion (East coast, not sure if they're national) has a fairly good loyalty program. Your loyalty card number on the physical card or in the app are the same, you can load coupons to it so they're applied at checkout if they're relevant, you can use their ordinary website if you don't have/want to use a smart phone app...it's non-cancerous.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

"It’s the dumbest thing ever. Why not just offer the better savings to the loyalty card?"

it's not a flaw. it's a feature.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

Loyalty cards werent a great thing either.

They werent to reward your loyalty, they were to tie your purchase history to an individual, So that information can be used and sold for marketing purposes.

It was basically the prototype for the invasive, information stealing apps we have today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My GF laughs because I have no loyalty cards or apps and I laugh that she has one for everything.

Loyalty rewards are bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In the US, if you don't have the loyalty card, you're paying more for groceries. For the stores we use, any sale prices are contingent upon using the loyalty card. This can add up to $5-$10 per order.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

Oh the same bullshit is done here with Loblaws. I don't care. They have my info every time I use my credit card at their store that's all they need and it's all they get.

If I have to pay more because they're greedy little fuckpigs so be it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

Early 2000 wants its internet back

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago

YES full support! I have and am sending this from my smartphone but I'll stop going to your store before I download your stupid fucking app for a free mcflurry or whatever the fuck pisspoor excuse you have for installing malware on my devices.

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