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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

I think he should be deported from the US

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I hope that you can't take away someone's citizenship with a petition

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Obviously the petition is to compel Parliament, or whoever is responsible, to take action to do so. I see this sentiment but I think it's misplaced. The petition is to bring it to the attention of politicians who typically have a blind spot on these things and may not understand or be aware of public sentiment.

There's no mechanism for a petition to do anything directly. But we all know that. I'm personally immediately suspicious of any attempts to create confusion on this issue. It seems to be disinformation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'll sign.

Though I do think that something like a petition having the power to actually revoke a person's citizenship is draconian, and should never actually happen in Canada, I do support the sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Though I do think that something like a petition having the power to actually revoke a person’s citizenship is draconian, and should never actually happen in Canada, I do support the sentiment.

You can rest easy, there's no mechanism for a petition to do anything except draw attention from those who can.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Sadly I'm not a Canadian, but I hope that this goes through. Would be hilarious.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

TIL he has one. Yep, I'm signing. And maybe putting up QR codes so other people can too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Note that an election must happen this year and some parties are really itching for one. All petitions get flushed away when parliament is dissolved, so high chance we will see no action from Parliament on this.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't want a country where a mob can get a large enough petition to strip someone of citizenship on that basis.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Me neither but that's not what's happening. The petition is not the basis for the action. The basis for the petition is the basis for the action, and the petition is a tool to demonstrate public support for the action.

I won't be signing it, though. This will help no one and I'd rather spend our political capital on things that do.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The basis of them actively trying to annex the entire country? I think if there was ever a good reason to remove someone’s citizenship it is because they want to destroy the country AND they have the power to do so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Then you don't need a petition. And if a petition is the deciding factor, that's shitty as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There was a situation in Switzerland where the people in the canteen didn’t like this woman so they refused to approve her citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember that. I heard her on a podcast, can't remember the details though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

The details are that the Swiss put bells around cows necks that stress them the fuck out. She campaigned against those, while living there for years. So the locals denied her citizenship to punish her for going against the tradition of animal abuse.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago

Approving is not the same as removing.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That scammer fucker has Canadian citizenship?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Yeah his mom was Canadian, he moved here to go to a Canadian uni, and work on his aunts farm.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Through his mother if I recall correctly

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I would rather he be prosecuted for treason, though I acknowledge that would require us to already be at war with the US (so he could be shown to be aiding the enemy). Too many innocent people (especially activists) could be affected by the precedent this would set-- especially the next time a Conservative government comes to power, though I could even see the Liberal Party mirroring Europe's recent police harassment of Palestinian-friendly journalists if not Trump's deportations of activists for Palestinians' human rights that Poilièvre would likely copy. Despite seeing myself as Canadian all of my life and being here for decades, I already feel less safe in this country, considering rising fascist sentiments like these out there. I'm not eligible for citizenship in the country of my birth either. I know the backlash from just stripping him of his citizenship outright would be directed to people like me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is pretty much the issue: laws have to apply to people I dislike as much as they apply to people I like. That's precisely why we have a constitution, etc.

As much as I dislike Elon and co, he deserves due process as much as everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago

You just proved you're not a maga chad (not insinuating that you ever were, or have been suspected of such).

It's amazing how much they claim to care about law and order until it happens to someone they like. Then all of the sudden it's unfair. But if it's someone they don't like then forget the due process.

They're masters of the double standard

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

laws have to apply to people I dislike as much as they apply to people I like.

Is that the case today?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It isn’t just on the basis of we don’t like him. It is because he has actively meddled with the integrity of our democracy AND he has power to do further damage. Lots of Canadians do anti-Canadian shit but very few of them have the power to do the damage that Musk can do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Whatever legal mechanisms exist need to be followed.

Didn't get me wrong. I agree, the state has to follow its own laws and respect our constitution.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

He gets due process. A hearing is held and it's legally determined if his citizenship should be revoked.

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