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A European Parliament member claimed that the U.S. gave Europe three weeks to agree on Ukraine's "surrender" terms or risk an American withdrawal from Europe.

Mika Aaltola made the claim on X, but provided no evidence. NBC News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suggested a U.S. troop reduction in Europe.

Trump reportedly plans to cut 20,000 troops and demand greater NATO contributions. He has pushed for higher NATO defense spending.

Trump may meet with Putin soon, believing Russia holds the upper hand in negotiations.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If I was a Russian agent, and had managed to become the US President, he's doing EXACTLY what I would to to gut and destroy the US. The Fanta Menace doesn't even seem to be trying to hide the fact he works for Putin. So how has he not been charges with treason? Signed, Confused Non-US person.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because the republicans have spent years gutting oversight, and decades making the populace dumber. This is their final putsch to fully gut the government so they can have complete power. And they’ve mostly succeeded already. The people are beyond disengaged from four years of this four years ago, plus Covid, plus struggling to survive in late stage American capitalism. It’s the perfect storm for a fascist takeover. And they’re taking full advantage.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Fanta Menace 🤣

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Or... Trump can pull the us military out of Europe, Canada joins the EU, and we seize American and russian assets to build a truly massive army.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

EU with the last part already way ahead of you

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, well we didn't vote for him. He can keep his lunacy for his subjects.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Pretty sure they didn't vote for him either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Over 50% of the once that went voting voted for trump. If you didnt vote, that was your vote. The vote to not give a fuck but still life with the aftermath

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Regrettably

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if we were to agree to those demands, there is no garantie they would actually help in defense of us!

We had to defend them when they called articel 5 but wont do the same for us!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I really hope the rest of the world leaders keep this at the forefront of their mind: Trump doesn't keep his word. Also, Trump doesn't pay his debts.

Attempting to make ANY deal with him is foolish. The wisest move is to expect him to screw over anyone who attempts to "work with" him, because unless you're holding his purse strings, he'll use you and lose you at his soonest opportunity. He is a cancer cell stealing resources from all the healthy cells around him - expect him to give nothing and take everything for his own gain.

I know to some that is "preaching to the choir," but living in the U.S. at a time like this, I really don't know who's been charmed by his BS vs who can see what's really going on. I imagine those outside the U.S. have better perspective, but I can't just expect people to be rational anymore.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago

Do it! I dare you! Fuck of from europe! Take all your companies with you! Dont sell us weapons anymore!

Democracie is none negotiatable and we dont negotiate with terrorist acomplices!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Some notes:

  • this is not confirmed, but seems credible enough to speculate about

  • regardless of veracity, European defense readiness needs a big boost, and people are working on the instruments that would allow giving that boost

  • another source says that Trump is planning cuts in the US armed forces, to the tune of 8% per year [sources that add "for multiple years" remain hearsay for me]

  • around January 20, I saw a table circulating on social media, describing Trump's intended cuts, and that table did drop about 21 brigades and paused the development of various capabilities (edit: found it)

  • so apparently, the Trump administration intends to lower its defense readiness no matter what, believing it has too much

On this background, not much point negotiating with him. He is framing as an ultimatum what he intends to do anyway. No point getting delayed either.

Just get the framework agreed upon, and quickly start supplying Ukraine with fresh stuff. Ukrainians aren't newbies, for now they have accumulated some small reserves (they knew what to expect under Trump, and Biden's administration pushed the last remains of its assistance out like there was no tomorrow)... but arrival of European assistance must start rapidly increasing within a window of 2..3 months.

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