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A European Parliament member claimed that the U.S. gave Europe three weeks to agree on Ukraine's "surrender" terms or risk an American withdrawal from Europe.

Mika Aaltola made the claim on X, but provided no evidence. NBC News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suggested a U.S. troop reduction in Europe.

Trump reportedly plans to cut 20,000 troops and demand greater NATO contributions. He has pushed for higher NATO defense spending.

Trump may meet with Putin soon, believing Russia holds the upper hand in negotiations.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is gambling with monopoly money.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Being an American that feels like they no longer have a home, I would like Europe to unleash holy hell upon the US. Do not let this fascicle president dictate what you do for your continent. You were fine before we took over swaths of your countries for their bases, you can be the strong leaders that the West need to fight everything that's going on in your vicinity with Russia, North Korea, and any other rogue nation. I hate to say it, but the US is a part of that sentence as well. The US will not protect you anymore, I have absolutely no faith that the US will step up when you need them the most. Protect yourselves.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

What would be the purpose of US support in Europe if not defending against Russia?

The US presence in Europe exists to facilitate US power projection, if we are not stopping Russian advancement then there is no reason for host countries to allow US bases in their territory.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I think most americans simply feel like they are losing stuff theyve had for a long time, never considering whether they should have had it to begin with.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

And I give trump three weeks to vacate the white House and the presidency.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 21 hours ago

Art of the deal. Plan A is to give three weeks to sign off on the surrender. When they refuse, Plan B starts. Plan B is that there is no Plan B.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If any European country bows down to Donald, I’ll boycott it for the rest of my life

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

You can count on Hungary and maybe Slovakia to grovel...like good america/russia first Europeans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Also known as "pig hitler"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This sounds like a blessing in a very thin disguise.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Call his bluff.

American soft power around the globe relies on having those bases on foreign soil.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Military bases and soldiers are the opposite of soft power

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you think about it from position of China being the biggest threat, then only Asian bases and countries matter. That's why we don't hear much about Trump doing crazy things in that region.

While Europe is important, it should be able to fend for itself. Also Europe joining China is unlikely in short and mid term. So it make sense to spend less money on Europe and focus on Asia.

Also explains the Russia situation. Although culturally Russia is as European as Sweden and Germany, this war has pushed it closer to China than ever. If the conflict lasts longer, then their alignment would be immenent. Personally I'm surprised that they didn't align more. China was being surprisingly passive about the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I think Trump will manage to push Europe into China's arms well within the next 4 years at the rate he's going. If Europe can get China to back Ukraine I think that's all it would take at this time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

I don't think so. They are culturally too different. Europe will continue to suck American cock for at least couple decades going forward. That's not to say that economic ties won't increase in the meantime.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't china already heavily invested/investing in Hungary?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

Yes China makes big distinction between US and Europe in its rhetoric. And they are working on pulling Europe from USA, but it's early days and it will take time. Lots of time.

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