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You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It depends on if Barron Trump is like his father or not.

Because that is who Trump has chosen to lead once Trump dies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

You’re sure? I’ve had this hunch because, well, obviously, but I don’t know for sure.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

its been screwed since OBAMA was president, conservatives including poc cant get over the fact they had a half-AA as a president. ever since putin and the gop have been riding on racism and sexism as thier key election goals, and only recently anti-lgbtq+

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Or we just have rich people who played idiots with these clown narratives and culture wars, while they gutted us in a class war.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Magic 8 Ball says: Most Likely

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

No. It's going to get worse for a while, maybe forever, but it won't ever collapse until outside forces put boots on the ground. The thing about the USA is that it's the United States, not singular state, so even if the Federal Entity is in turmoil or even collapses: the USA will continue operating at limited capacity.

The day that the USA is done will be the beginning of the third great war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I would say so. The only question is whether the good guys win a civil war. My money is on 'yes', since Yarvin's Cabal is hellbent on exiling all of the competent people from their society, along with being jackasses who have alienated many peoples. It will be a bloody struggle, but I think that Dogey America will ultimately receive the Old Yeller treatment. I only hope that every member of Yarvin's Cabal are executed - Elon, Thiel, ect.

Let's not make the mistakes of the 1st Civil War, 1st Business Plot, and 2nd World War, where many high ranking members were permitted to escape justice.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 3 days ago (20 children)

I hate to say it, but yes. Everything we've predicted from trump has come true thus far.

The insurrection was predicted

The migrant camps were predicted

The ice raids were predicted

Roe v Wade was predicted

~~Selling~~ Giving Ukraine to Russia was predicted

Banning DEI was predicted

The list goes on but more importantly these were all seen as hypothetical worst case scenarios. We should stop treating the next steps like they are hypothetical. America has fallen, and civil war is next.

Former presidents at least recognized they had the responsibility to take care of both the people who voted for them and the people who didn't. Trump only sees the people who voted for him and the people he needs to make an example of.

I hate to say it, but the DNC is weak and won't help us anymore. I supported Kamala like hell and believed that they could figure it out but they just don't and won't.

I'm not a violent person. I hate the thought that I'd ever be forced into a situation where I need to either learn how to fight or die (because right now I'm SOL). I never wanted to find myself rooting for assassins and feeling like the world would be better off of certain people were dead. I'd rather believe the world would be better off if certain people were alive.

But all I see in the future is a federal coup backed by sycophants in the Senate and supreme Court that then collides with the governors of blue states who won't bend the knee.

TL;Dr if we don't go full dictator, we are going to civil war, and we deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Whatever the Fed is now is going to be an existential threat to many people if it isn’t already. Governors will start picking sides I think. The Illinois governor made a pretty bold statement today.

We have a surveillance state, though, and they control it and the narrative.

People will need to get it together fast.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What are some major relevant events that were predicted but haven't happened yet?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Federal abortion ban

Gay marriage ban

Derecognizing trans people, oh wait that happened

Reviving the war on drugs by forcing states to criminalize weed

Ending the ACA

Ending any and every environmental protection entity

Ending the two term limit for the president

Banning protests and strikes

Criminalize being homeless, oh wait that happened

From this (my sad, sad, crystal ball)

Protests erupt, at first peaceful until live ammunition is used as a suppressant. From this radical groups will likely work with established gangs to create an insurgency. Governors will be forced to either comply with the federal government, or may choose to unite with other governors to defy the federal forces as they see the writing on the wall. It will be a legal battle at first, but then there will likely be an inciting event that will create an interstate crisis. This crisis will either divide state governments, force them under trump, or they will collapse altogether. The battle lines won't be drawn on state lines, but rather between rural and urban territories. It will be more ethereal much like what happened in Syria.

From an international perspective, the new Bloc of resistance (Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea) will use this chance to advance their agendas. Russia will absolutely support the Trump government, while China will invade Taiwan easily, and then try to keep America slightly stable but still as weak as possible. North Korea and Iran will likely send aid to the other members but not engage directly.

Canada and the EU will have likely close their borders long before this as our alliance deteriorated due to Trump's intense isolationism.

If you thought Brexit was a shot in the foot, we just straight up pulled a pin on a grenade and put it in our pocket.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

we just straight up pulled a pin on a grenade and put it in our pocket.

no. we shoved it up our ass.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

imprisoning dissidents will be a big step. That will mean its time to stop posting on reddit and lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Give me Lemmy or give me gitmo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Oh 100%.

Fuck I'm so addicted to social media though. Damn I feel so check mate'd.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump only sees the people who voted for him and the people he needs to make an example of

Let's not pretend like Trump gives a shit about the people who voted for him.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Very fair take.

That said he's not a full on idiot. MAGAts are useful tools for him, so he is more likely to try and make them happy, in some way. Currently the way to make them happy is to punish the left. In our post 9/11 USA, rage is what flips seats.

W Bush won his second term because we were blind with rage after the attacks, and John Kerry didn't run a counter rage campaign.

Obama won because the financial crash enraged the left.

Obama won his second term because Romney wasn't able to stir up the needed rage.

Trump won because he was the embodiment of rage.

Biden won by the rage we had for Trump in the summer of 2020.

Trump won again by running a campaign of rage vs Kamala who ran a "campaign of joy".

We are a country of 50 mini countries. All you need to do to win is generate enough rage to pit purple states against the states who won't vote for you. So long as this country stands as it is, this is just how it's going to be. Sadly any diplomatic fixes for this are pipe dreams now.

The only way this will end is when the fire of rage consumes the whole system and burns it down. After that... I don't know.

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