Calm down they're like 16yrs old
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I know a bunch of people who got into webdesign cuz of MySpace.
I’m an 80’s kid. We had to learn everything: MS-DOS, Windows, how to install OS’s and software, serial ports, etc. Nothing was easy or convenient. You had to LEARN how and why things worked if you wanted to run games and things.
My dad never used any of our actual PC’s. He wouldn’t know which way to hold the mouse, much less anything else. We tried to teach him, but he just couldn’t grasp any of the fundamentals.
But with an iPad? That’s easy. It just works. He can e-mail, do Facebook, watch YouTube or other streaming…
Point is: we made shit way too accessible and convenient. Kids never have to learn anything anymore. So they don’t. We literally had to teach interns the basics of working with a desktop; all they’ve ever used was an iPad and phone.
It also lead to the destruction of the old web. Back in the early to late ‘90’s, you had to be a nerd to use it. To WANT to use it even. But now that it’s so easy and convenient even my completely tech illiterate dad can get online, things have turned to shit. We never should’ve made it this convenient.
It's funny. You're telling us that the technology was too complicated for some people to use, then you say we got to the point that it just works and you end with this being bad. Why do you think that?
In short, the complexity acted as a filter. It was a barrier to entry, which meant you had to be a bit of a nerd to get online. Back in the ‘90’s, people made fun of you for being an online nerd. But it also meant that the people who got online tended to be smarter. More educated.
The internet of the ‘90’s had a very nerdy culture. The worst debates were about Star Wars vs Star Trek. We disagreed on some things, but on the whole it was ‘us nerds’ online.
Now that we made it this easy, there’s no longer a filter: you can find anyone and everyone online. Including some folks who can’t really handle this much freedom without being assholes with it. The web also gravitated towards bigger platforms which, ironically, have much less of a community feel than the old web. In the 90’s, I knew everyone on a forum by name. But on a subreddit with a million people, there's no real ‘community’.
The web these days is also overrun with politics, which simply wasn’t a thing back in say, 1995.
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I've worked in IT for most of my career. I've seen some shit. I'm on the older side of "millennial". Not old enough to be on the cusp, but almost immediate after. I have had computers as a part of my life since I was young enough to remember, starting with a 286/386 that my dad used at home.
One thing I've noticed is that most companies shit doesn't stink. What I mean by that is that all of them, to some extent, hide, cover up, or otherwise deny that their product has any issues whatsoever. I did a lot of VMware training back in the day, there were good reasons for that, but I won't get into it .. anyways, all of their training was about how it's supposed to work. There's zero material about what to do when it doesn't work like it is supposed to... Even "troubleshooting" courses are designed to help you fix the configuration of the system using only methods sanctioned by the company, because any fault or flaw in their product must be because you aren't using it right, or you simply don't know how.
I've known so many millennials, especially in the tech space, that had to fix their own problems because the product, and the company that made it, believes that their shit doesn't stink. There's nothing wrong with their product, you either don't know how to use it, or you aren't using it correctly,
Meanwhile, here in reality, all their shit sucks to all fuck, and their product is little more than hour garbage.
Yay?
I'd say that technologically millennials really have it best over everyone else.
Us millennials had to figure out the technology as it evolved into what it is today we know how bad it really was before it got really good.
I remember back in high school around 2002 we got cable internet for the first time we had all of three megabytes download. That was tremendously fast.
Movies were in divx format and could be dled from peer to peer networks. Morpheus, zazaa, Ares.
Dang those were the days.
Gen-X here. We had to figure out acoustic modems and we didn't have internet, we had local BBSes.
We also had to figure out the C-64.
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Let's not make the inevitable mistake of assuming what was an essential skill for one generation is going to matter fuck all for most of the next generation.
Old people still think it's outageous if you can write a check, read an analog clock, read/write cursive... All things that most millennials might "need" to do less than once a year.
How is reading a clock something you do less than once a year
I know how to read an analogue clock but never once in my life has it been easier/ more convenient to read one than it is to pull out my magic light box I always have on me and look at the big bright numbers in the centre of the screen.
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True, the skills needed to troubleshoot a a Windows 95 computer are not all relevant today, but the fact that computers had a lot of issues when I was growing up in the ninties and twothousands, means that I developed a pretty solid grasp of general computer troubleshooting, something that the kids that grew up with it-just-works (TM) technology are missing, this is obviously a skill that can be learned, and over time we will see computer troubleshooting become more and more academic.
My ssd is sda (with a sda1 boot partition and an encrypted root partition). I may be in Gen Z but I also have Autism, granted I didnt grow up with a lot of technology but I always squeezed every ounce out of them. When I was 13 I installed Linux, by 16 I already knew how to use a terminal (and manage the entire system with it), today I would say im relatively good at basic IT and basic network management (although im struggling greatly at installing coreboot).
Conclusion: Gen Z/Alpha probrally wont be great at computers but there will probrally be many individuals who will be significantly more advanced at computers. I was watching YouTube and a found a video of a 15 year old installing Arch manually in less than 10 minutes on a Chromebook. So tbh I wouldn't be worried tbh (at least about this specifically).
but I also have Autism,
I rest my case your honor.
Yes ik that gives me a massive advantage but anyone can hyperfixate on technology :3
I think... Idk I dont know what its like to be neurotypical
My ssd is sda (with a sda1 boot partition and an encrypted root partition).
That's because is a SATA SSD.
Conclusion: Gen Z/Alpha probrally wont be great at computers but there will probrally be many individuals who will be significantly more advanced at computers.
Yeah, I'm Gen Z as well and watching people use Google without knowing what to put in the search box drives me nuts, but that's why they pay for me so...
I remember telling my dad "Computers aren't that hard. You just need to read what is the thing saying" and most people won't even read, let alone comprehend.
Thats because is a SATA SSD
Correct :3
I remember telling my dad "Computers aren't that hard. You just need to read what is the thing saying"
The problem is more and more systems these days won't let you read what they're saying, systems like ChromeOS, Android (AOSP is better but only if you're a dev), IOS, IpadOS, MacOS, and Windows are going out of their way to hide "power user" features. At this point the only real choice of operating systems for people who want full control over their computer are Linux distributions.
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I can use the internet to look at all types of buttholes.
I expect nothing less from Satan's maggoty cum fart.
I run a Makerspace and teach technology to kids. I don't think they are getting worse, but the difference between the lowest and highest skilled is bigger than ever before.
Those who are interested, learn so fucking fast and so thoroughly, because they have things like YouTube tutorials and Discord chat groups with like-minded nerds to teach themselves. BUT at the same time, it's easier to just remain a consumer, and never gain any deeper knowledge.
I think curiosity and attention are quickly becoming the most important skills by far.