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According to the Telegraph, a leaked confidential Trump peace plan delivered to President Zelenskyy has caused panic in Kyiv.

The proposal would grant the U.S. half of revenues from Ukraine’s resource extraction and licensing, effectively amounting to economic colonization.

The Telegraph noted, "Trump’s demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles Treaty, later whittled down at the London Conference in 1921, and by the Dawes Plan in 1924."

Simultaneously, the plan would absolve Russia for its invasion that has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if the USA promises liberation from Russia, protection for eternity and the cure for cancer... the word of the USA means less than nothing now...

Ukraine has the same chance of benefiting if they just help that poor Nigerian Prince and use the resulting reward to buy weapons

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[–] [email protected] 187 points 3 months ago (54 children)

I am so fucking embarrassed to be an American. Fuck this country and its “leaders”

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

Trump signs deals and then just ignores them when he sees fit. He lies about everything. Look at what he is trying to do to Canada who he has a free trade deal with that he signed and said was the best deal ever. Guy is a liar.

[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this is just part of the "give them a terrible deal they wouldn't agree to" strat that means Trump can say "we gave them a very good deal and they refused, Russia can do what they want".

It's all bullshit and always has been.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I can already see this being parroted back to me by my relatives who watch Hungarian TV stations

[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unbelievable. Every day, I'm amazed that a man I don't even freaking know can piss me off this much on pretty much a daily basis. The man just literally has no shame, none, zero.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I honestly despise the fact that this man (as well as Musk) has made me into a bitter person who hates. I don't want to hate anyone. I can feel it destroying my soul (or whatever you want to fucking call it).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yep. The other option is to be ignorant of all the fucked up shit they do which isn't any better 😒

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago

The Ukrainians started fighting before any guarantees and support started coming in from the west. They are fighting for their own self determination. Trump thinking he can just impose this is just not understanding that the Ukrainians can simply say no. And when they do, his all powerful persona will be exposed even more for the scam that it is.

Russian battleship and American president: fuck off!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Trump is not a public servant, he is a crooked business man. He doesn't think about making life on earth better, he thinks about ripping people off as much as he can get away with.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Could they agree to it then mine nothing until Trump leaves and renegotiate as a NATO member

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

mine nothing

So just kill their own economy?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you think Trump would be above bombing them himself for "breaking the deal"?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm wondering if he'll attack them for not signing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where from though, Russian territory?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

US military bases all over Europe?

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nothing Trump has ever said has been "confidential" 😂

He could make a tweet saying he's going to destroy the continent with a deathray tomorrow, and MAGA fascists would make a tiktok dance to celebrate it. There's no Watergate this time around, only Leopard's All-you-can-eat face buffet™

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Except that one time he had that meeting with Putin without translators, and he ate the notes.

No, this is not a joke. I may be conflating two events.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

He did meet Putin with no intermediaries. An intern also reported that he would eat notes from White House meetings. I'm not sure whether it happened at the same time but I would be completely unsurprised.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago

Now the EU should leak a report that says without USA's guaranteed peace and NATO breaking up, chances for Russia to attack the EU are pretty much 100%, so better to tariff the USA to astronomical levels, use that money to fund the EU military and attack now before Russia has a chance to rebuild.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

There's absolutely no sense in that, it would normally just be rights to it like they get the first chance to buy it so they have a guaranteed supply.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well... If I was China, I'd see this as a motivation to invade Taiwan.

If the invasion works, it works.

If it doesn't, simply wait for a US president that isn't able to plan 3 days ahead.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if Taiwan is mulling over a peaceful reunification with China as a result of this mess. Their independence depends in large part on US support, but with Trump at the helm they're likely to face extortion when they need it most.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good job inbred Americans.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

How is Israel paying back? Or those are donations? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 129 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Putin’s puppet doing his job well. The Orange Turd delivers garbage as usual.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So a mafia protection racket?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Should bring up the whole administration on RICO charges.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago

Except for protection.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The telegraph is a right-wing outfit and should be viewed through the lens of that bias. This article repeats their undermining of Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Also it doesn't mention much of a "peace plan", these are just Trump's terms to "reparate" him for all the aid the US sent to Ukraine. Ukraine didn't sign this exact deal because it didn't even offer them any security guarantees in return. Clickbait journalism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I knew as much as soon as I read "panic in Kyiv".

They love to make Europe look scared.

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