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Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10, with end of life fast approaching (www.pcguide.com)

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (26 children)

Thing is, there's people out there on windows 10 on a computer without the magic special chip windows 11 demands.

Lots of those people can't update and lots don't know about Linux or understand how to even use a USB drive to install it.

Yes it's easy for us semi tech people, but remember not everyone is into tech or understand how computers works.

People NEED computers to do stuff like applying for jobs, or searching online, or video games with friends.

Those people who don't have a tpm chip and can't upgrade will just not and continue using a insecure windows 10 because they don't know or understand what it is.

Remember Lemmy, just because you understand tech, doesn't mean everyone knows about it, or can grasp the concepts.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

Maybe because Windows 11 sucks

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Damn, that sucks for them. Glad I gave up that nonsense years ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Gaymers raise up!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

IF steam OS is ready for wide release by then, you'll see massive adoption.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

I use Linux and windows. Windows is so much simpler for 99% of ppl that grew up with it.

I love your optimism. But if even a single digit percentage of them migrates to Linux, that would be mind boggling.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (14 children)

Microsoft is so powerful they'll be able to force many games to only work on Windows

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, they haven't been able to do that so far. Not even close.

Linux is already the superior OS for gaming and has been for a while. Windows represents a consistently degraded experience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

We're entering the robber barron era, get ready for them to play hardball if their monopoly is threatened

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Still plenty of other games to play. I'd be happy to not give them any money.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I like the optimism of Linux users thinking there will be a massive flood towards their favourite Linux distro.

When the obvious path the majority of gamers will take is just ... not upgrade anything and stay on an unsecure OS until their next major PC upgrade.

Most users don't care about security as long as it allows them to do with their computer what they want.

If Microsoft didn't push people to a new version, you know too many would still be rocking Windows 8.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yea, as someone who games on linux (ArchBTW), I don't know if its really there yet for mass adoption, I was helping a younger sibling troubleshoot their dying PC and they even suggested I install Linux on it for them. With a fresh Linux Mint iso on my Ventoy USB, the voices raged at me to convert another penguin. But sadly I knew, deep down, they are not ready to deal with the issues if something goes wrong, a software has no Linux support, or if they ever want to mod their games.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Windows had to force updates because so many people just didn’t update

Anyone that is on 10 still isn’t going to go to Linux

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I'm still on 10. I'm waffling between installing bazzite on my laptop, building a new computer and installing bazzite, or just using my steam deck as a daily driver. But none of the options include using windows.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If Microsoft didn't push people to a new version, you know too many would still be rocking Windows 8.

You mean Windows 7

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You mean Windows XP.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (5 children)

You mean 7, right? Most people skipped 8, and that's why Microsoft made the update to 10 free.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No they'd still be running XP if they could.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just like skipping Vista was the way to go. We need to skip Win11.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I know someone that is deathly afraid of tracking by Microsoft to upgrade their pc from Windows 8. They won't spend the time to learn linux, as they use a proprietary app specific to windows for what they use. I point out Win8 has the same kind of data collection and they dismiss it with a head-in-the-sand response.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I stayed on xp until I got a new pc during 7, then I stayed on 7 until I got a new pc during 10. I'll probably stay on 10 until whatever is after 11 comes out, even though I know better, because I just don't care enough.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I've been meaning to get a Linux VM spun up for testing games. I gather that I'll have some issues (i.e. blockers) with multi-player games and cheat-prevention, but I'd just as soon play single player games anyway.

I've been a Linux/Unix admin for 25+ years so I've no excuse other than convenience. But I'm done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Honestly I migrated to bazzite about a month ago and my entire library has just… worked. It was shockingly easy. I haven’t changed anything from defaults at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd recommend the other way around; Windows in a VM for the vew games that don't work on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Kernel anti-cheats won’t (shouldn’t) work in a a VM

Now no one should have those but if someone was smart enough to know that then they would be on Linux already

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Wait, really? I only knew VM-detection from malw... oh.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm sure you know this already, but for anyone who doesn't: If you want to know if a specific game will work under Linux, Proton DB is your friend!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Steam should push po>!o!<p-up ads like [Windows support is ending, click here to install Linux.]

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