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This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.

Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

What can we do?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Leave the micropenis guys alone, it's already a shit card to be dealt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

phtn.app client is amazing. looks modern and beautiful.

Can recommend

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Aren't you guys sick of forced infinite growth in every aspect of our collective existence? The Fediverse is not shareholder owned, we don't have to be slaves to The Red Line That Must Go Up. Reddit went to shit when it was aggresively mainstreamed, I don't want it to happen to lemmy as well.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

There was a lot of debate about this when the reddit exodus happened in 2023. I initially joined then and have stuck around since. Something that was said a lot back then that I agree with is that Lemmy doesn't have to compete with reddit. It's alright for this corner of the internet to exist and not be the single dominant one.

If someone makes a reddit clone somewhere else with more liberal admins, good for them. I wouldn't be going there. The fact that Lemmy is sectioned into servers is part of the appeal. I'm glad that I can be part of a server with very progressive administration. I would never get this level of moderation and support from any other social media. I'm fine with that meaning that uninformed people who just want to doom-scroll are less likely to come here.

We have seen growth periods time and again when problems arise with private social media companies. Each time, a little more people from the initial wave join for good. I think that's fine. Most lemmy servers are run for free by people who just believe in what we're doing here. We can always add more servers, but we can't handle the kind of traffic that reddit handles. We're entirely dependent on dedicated people investing large amounts of their time to create and maintain these spaces for us.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Has software usage really gotten to the point where the average person can't handle being given a choice about anything? Where it's just too much effort to do anything more than mindlessly click on whatever is presented to them? 🤦

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately yes. And there is no going back.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Is there even a point to which one you pick? I just picked .kbin because I liked the UI, and when that fell apart I moved to .world mostly at random.

Is there really a large difference between them?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I picked ani because I don't have to sub to every anime community, I can just go to the Local view and get everything I need.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I originally picked infosec but not too many communities were federated. Picked lemm.ee because it was easy to memorize and had a solid admin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

That's exactly what I did, lol. Kbin seemed intriguing but didn't last. I did try to look and get an idea about different lemmy instances but found very little info about any of them except for the 2 or 3 "infamous" ones, so I just went with .world, which seems fine to me.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

99% of users are going to check out when you ask which server they want to join

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Although, I think the answer to the barrier to entry is to be less concerned with making federated services feel like centralized apps, more concerned with rebranding server select as the advantage that it actually is. Educate those people.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That bar to entry is a good thing; it helps keep most of the stupid out. The same stupid that ruined the rest of the internet.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't keep dumb people out, it keeps non tech savvy people out, I've seen extremely immature people on here

I'd pick a mature user over a tech savvy user any day. Ideally they'd be both

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

it keeps non tech savvy people out,

Picking a server isn't a tech savvy person thing to do and it's a good idea to stop pretending like it is. My wife, who needs me to move her steam games to other drives for her, managed to do it without asking me a thing. Tech skill has nothing to do with it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Tech savvy would be to start your instances. Going through the process of picking an instance and registering there is no more tech savvy than registering with facebook or any other online site. The complexity keeping people away isn't technical, it's domain specific. People don't know how to choose an instance because they're not given enough information to actually tell instances apart.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Brotha, don't forget, even knowing what Steam is, let alone that games don't exist in a vacuum with unicorns but on drives is far far far beyond what majority of people have had a chance to be familiar with. It sucks.

on the contrary, It took me days to figure out what the difference between servers are, what federates to what, etc. And it had nothing to do with tech. Analysis Paralysis is a thinhg:)

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m fine with the effort bar being selecting an instance. If someone can’t get beyond that, there’s probably not much they have to say I’d be interested in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

same here, eternal september growth be damned

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Likewise, lol. A little friction keeps the chaff out.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's worse than reddit. It's more liberal.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, cool, a new account to block.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago

(Guy who uses email at work): MuLtIpLe sErVeRs ArE tOo HaRd

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