Fediverse

Wait wait wait... This implies people like new reddit... That shit makes my eyes bleed wtf

Hot take - I don't blame them. The who's federated with who and who can see what, and how it works is confusing as absolute fuck and extremely poorly explained.

I was on Sync for Reddit before going here, and checked out Lemmy as the devs switched platform. So the joke's on them, my UX is basically identical.

That said, sucks that people shy away because of complexity.

The comments here are smug as fuck.

I’m going to be holding a teach-in about the fediverse. AFK I mean. Like the people I live with, and am in community with in meat space. They all want to ditch corpo social media, but aren’t sure how. I’ll hold a digital one too for my more extended community, but I want to start with the people I truly live with. I think word of mouth is a great way to onboard people as it allows for a dynamic level of handholding. This is essentially “grassroots” social media after all.

I don’t really want Reddit to join Lemmy en masse. I want the people that see the value of pre-2010 social media, and the “local” internet, to understand and have access to these tools and spaces. I think that will be best done through education, not advertising. Advertising the platform is exactly what all the platforms we want to ditch do, and we are actively trying to not be those platforms.

The sense of “needing” more users, to me at least, is a hold out of the “infinite growth”, capitalist, mindset. I don’t want infinite growth for my instance, I want the people it’s made for to find it, and enjoy communicating with the people they share it with.

Why do we want more users? Because lemmy is insufferable. Im here, like many others, waiting for an alternative to reddit and hoping im already there.

No we dont need gatekeeping based on a users understanding federated servers. We need more people so the smaller communities actually have posts and we dont need to scroll the dumpster fire that is "everything".

It’s why my less “tech savvy” friends won’t join. They don’t understand what federation is, and No they don’t want to take 2 minutes to learn.

It’s annoying, but it’s reality. People don’t understand the whole different servers thing, federation, and how to pick one.

I realize marketing isn’t a strong suit (nor should it be), but I’m proposing two solutions (well maybe not solutions, but something to help):

• A quick animated video showing the benefits of Lemmy and how this all works (if it hasn’t already been done yet)

• A service that basically simplifies and centralizes the signup process to one screen. During server selection, users can see the most populated servers and click on them to learn the specific rules for the server, etc.

Idk, maybe we already have all this…or this is just complicating the issue. Or maybe we only want people willing to take 2 minutes to learn about how it all works. Tbh that’s a pretty good natural filter for the types of users I want to be interacting and discussing with.

If coding were something I could do, I'd be tempted to run a modified lemmy instance where voting is disabled all together, and default sorting is forum style.

Edit: oh and nested replies would be disabled too. Maybe add a quote button on people's comments.

Try not caring. The more Reddit users come here the more it's going to suck.

This is just bot-driven FUD anyway, Lemmy is nothing like old Reddit and it wouldn't be disqualifying if it was.

Good! The last thing we need is the Facebook crowd.

Lemmy only really became usable for me after I blocked certain instances/communities. Tbh if I wasn't permabanned from Reddit I probably would have quit early on and went back to Reddit.

This wasn't because of UX. It's was because some of the most active and highly upvoted instances that had posts hit All constantly were full of terrible people and idiots.

However now that I realize how powerful that is to be able to block whole instances and curate your experience and realize that it's basically impossible to Permaban someone from Lemmy, I'm enjoying it a lot more.

This is why email never caught on. Who wants to choose between Gmail, Yahoo, MSN, Proton, and Comcast? A successful email service would be one where you can only communicate with users of the same email service. /s

Well yeah, which server do they want to join? Maybe sample servers that reset every day would be useful?

I remember being curious about the fediverse and when I first looked and saw "instances" I got decision fatigue.

I didn't know if an instance would limit me from interacting with others, could randomly disappear (ie hexbear domain), or if some instances would be a bad fit. I also didn't know of it was unchangeable. Decision fatigue set in and I was less excited, but still registered.

To overcome that, there should be a "randomly choose for me" button with notes next to it that say you can change later, it won't impact things, and you can interact with any instance. For random selection, just make it the top 3 most popular instances. Use a fun icon to indicate random change so the on boarding user has to think less.

Instances seem very confusing to an average user, as does federation. There could be an explanation like "Instead of 1 big company controlling everything, there are many copies of Lemmy that are in different places run by volunteers. These "instances" or copies are all Lemmy and can interact with each other, but having many copies means there isn't ever 1 big company who can set all the rules and suddenly change thing in a bad way. " and then the random selection button which almost everyone would choose.

The average user dosn't want to RTFM and also has an IQ of around 100 which is really low. The average reading ability of someone in the USA is like 6th grade level or something atrocious. You can't overestimate average intelligence in an in boarding process.

Fuck the top comment. Old.Reddit is the only tolerable way to access that shithole. What "bells and whistles" do you want? It's a fucking link aggregator.

Nothing, this seems like a good thing, I don't want them here if they literally cannot even comprehend the concept of different servers, though somehow no one has this issue with discord even though it's dogshit, almost as if they just yearn for the corporate boot.

Don't over think it, the people who want to be here will be.