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This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.

Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.

What can we do?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Bells and whistles = ads, tracking, loads of bots

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I spent way too much time trying to understand why I wasn't taken to the comments when I hit the comment icon...

... in the screenshot

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What can we do?

File issues on the GitHub for how to improve the UX, and put thumbs up reactions on issues so the devs know which issues to prioritize

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues

Or even better, make pull requests if you're a dev

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Which server do you want to use is like asking "Do you want Gmail, Outlook or Yahoo for email?" it really isn't that big of a deal, but maybe people these days have a hard time doing that too...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People always use the email comparison but it's really not the same, it's more complicated than that. We know it's not too much of a big deal but it is when you don't know what it means to be on a server.

I remember being presented with a choice of servers myself and wondering what on earth it meant, and just wanting to join the "default" one. Ultimately it doesn't matter too much but at the time it feels like a big hurdle.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

While I agree in general, there is a bit more as unlike email... Defederation is a thing.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I don't get how people get hung on choosing a server when people have been chosing a starter Pokémon since 1998 without any major issues. And you get just about the "same" amount of practical info.

Really, what tiktok does to a generation...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nothing to do with TikTok or this generation. Most users find it complicated and insulting them won't change reality. I've learned that the hard way from my years trying to convert people to Linux.

What Lemmy and Mastodon need to do is to have one canonical instance that they manage well themselves. Everyone gets signed up to that initially and those who want to transfer to another instance afterwards can. That alone could have prevented BlueSky taking the lead the way it did.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone gets signed up to that initially and those who want to transfer to another instance afterwards can.

That's the second big problem hidden in this model: account migration doesn't currently work (nor do I know of an ETA for feature release).

Not to mention the first problem: this heavily promotes centralization which is what caused this whole mess in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Absolute centralisation caused the mess. My suggestion is just initial centralisation. It lets people get active with the platform while they figure out the basics rather than paralysing them with options up front.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

One central server is created. Users finally have an easy time joining lemmy and most are content with staying right where they are. A large amount of content is now centralized to one place. Suddenly, financial interests take notice of a large amount of untapped potential. Caving in to the opportunity to live an easier life under the warm blanket of money, the central server owner sells the server to the highest bidder.

The new central server owner defederates from smaller instances, eventually cutting themselves off from all other lemmy servers. Enshittification begins.

I'm sure there's reasons this couldn't happen but I think the biggest strength of lemmy is having users just randomly pick and then figure it out later. I started out on .world but didn't like their moderation and defederation practices, so I moved.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would love info/data-sheets about all the instances, that would make the decision process easier:

  • who de-federated who?
  • who hosts most content related to topic X?
  • number of users and their distribution of joined communities
  • posts/second average user activity …
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

posts/second average user activity …

posts/second

posts per second

...what, are you looking for instances for bots?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Good keep those numb nuts away. Reddit sucks not only because of Spez and his greedy overlords, many of the users suck as well and I bet there is a big overlap on the Venn diagram between people who suck and people who think lemmy is confusing

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Technical aptitude != emotional maturity

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

The second this hurdle is crossed we'll need a new Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I've gone on this diatribe about PIxelfed's onboarding process, where they have a website that says "This page will help find the perfect server for you" and then is designed to present as little meaningful information about each server as possible. Looking at join-lemmy.org, it's marginally better. "You can access all content from the Lemmyverse from any server, so it doesn't matter which you choose" 1. not strictly true and 2. if it doesn't matter why make the choice?

Here's a question I have, because I'm honestly not sure: Let's say most of the communities I'm personally interested in are on example.lol. But my account is on sh.itjust.works. How much am I burdening sh.itjust.works by mostly reading and posting to example.lol? Would I be decreasing people's operating costs if I just opened an account on example.lol so most of my interaction was on my home instance?

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