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[–] [email protected] 39 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Cat food isn't even any more expensive than canned tuna and other similar canned meats. You're not saving any money. You're eating cat food for no reason!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

What if the reason is flavour?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you mean "cat food isn't even less expensive..."?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

That does appear to be how words be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Lonely, social security, grandmas gettin in dat protein

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

Pate of cow and chicken buttholes? No thanks, I prefer Soylent Green, just add cheese in a can!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please don’t eat this. My cat needs his gainz

[–] [email protected] 24 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

My neighbor has an indoor cat that spends all day getting into the highest spots he can find. This is his hobby. I've watched him get down from on top of the high-hung cupboards and the way he did it... it was like the whole apartment was his planet fitness. They all called him fat, because at first glance, sure you could say that.

He got down to come see me when I first visited and I was 100% sure that I never wanted to mess with this cat. It was like patting a fuzzy wall. He is not fat. Bro is built like a tank. He's literally V shaped. He's survived years with three pitbull dogs that like to chase him and try to use him as a toy. Out of all the animals there, that is the scariest one. That's what happens when your cat uses ALL the protein in that food for gainz.

I pointed this out to one of the neighbors and the look on their faces as they realized I was right.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago

And then there's the other kind of cat (mine) that uses all the protein to become pear-shaped.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ounce for ounce, this shit is wildly expensive. You could eat far cheaper and not be you know... eating fucking cat food.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

True but Royal Canin's beef mix does smell tempting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah... that doesn't seem like a reliable site. According to the FAQ the owner just reads the labels and assigns a rating based on their own undocumented scoring system. They also have no particular qualifications for the work they're doing and make several clerical errors due to their own bias. For example, they don't count anything listed only as "protein" as protein because they don't trust the manufacturer not to lie on the label. Given that this site gets literally all of their information from the manufacturer's label, I'm sure you see why that's a problem. Their information is also just plain wrong on some accounts, such as labeling Royal Canin as "significantly lower carbs than average" while most experts agree the opposite is true. The reason they get these wrong is due to a flawed methodology. They basically add up the percentages on the labels and classify whatever is left however they want.

For the record, I don't feed my cat Royal Canin (due to the above reason), I was only commenting on the smell. Nevertheless, I would advise everyone to steer away from that site.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What exactly is this website? I'd never heard of it. It seems legit, but I'm curious about their sourcing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

It's legit. Her only fault is the data is always slightly out of date because pet food manufacturers are always changing their recipes, which change the dry matter basis values and warnings about ingredients.

It's all explained on her about page, but basically she has painstakingly built up the database by sourcing everything herself and accepting some community input. I personally have emailed to have things updated.

https://catfooddb.com/about

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Cool resource, thanks for sharing! I was surprised that the old brand I used, which I thought was pretty good, was just "below average", though now the one I'm getting is "above average".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

I'm not fancy enough

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I once made chicken liver pate for my cats, as a treat. It was only chicken liver pan-fried in a bit of lard, with a bit of salt. My cats flat out refused, but it turned out delicious so I froze it into cubes for myself, and ate it across the span of two weeks.

I still prepare it often, albeit with a different recipe.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fun fact, because of the great depression, canned pet food has to be safe for human consumption.

Well, for now, at least

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago

I couldn't find anything on the great depression requiring pet food to be safe for human consumption. I would love for someone to prove me wrong through.

According to this PetMD article, prior to WW2 pet food was a luxury item. During WW2 pet food production completely stopped due to the war. (No cited sources on this article though, I am not sure how accurate it's claims are?)

According to this Vice article, pet food is held to some standards but technically does not need to be safe for human consumption. (Again, I am not sure how trustworthy of a source Vice is)

This is the best source I have found, a peer reviewed and cited research article published on Jan 30th 2023: Insights-Driven Development of Humanized Foods for Pets. It clashes with the above article in that it talks about pet food production during WW2 and actually cites sources. In regards to pet food being required to be fit for human consumption, it doesn't mention anything about the great depression. It actually mentions that this is a more recent development and that there still isn't a "set standard"

A seemingly simple yet confusing claim that has appeared recently in the pet food space is “human-grade,” whereby additional regulations regarding manufacturing, packaging, and storing of the food ensure compliance with safety standards of human consumption guidelines (Oba et al., 2020). Although this claim has been used for pet foods for a few years, it has no definition in animal feed regulations. The term “edible,” however, is defined by the US Department of Agriculture as foodstuffs that have been processed, inspected, and passed manufacturing regulations that are designed to ensure safety for consumption by humans. Pet foods that truly meet this standard must include only ingredients that are human edible and must be manufactured, packed, and held in accordance with the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Title 21 (AAFCO, 2021; FDA, 2022). Currently, AAFCO is in the process of drafting guidance for “human-grade” claims in pet foods in an attempt to provide clarity to the claim (AAFCO, 2021). The proposed definition outlines that pet foods using the “human-grade” claim are first and foremost animal food products that are subjected to inspection under 21 CFR 507, manufacturing must be in accordance with 21 CFR 110, and the overall process is conducted according to standards ensuring human consumption safety (Carter et al., 2014; Oba et al., 2020; FDA, 2022). Furthermore, the pet food bearing a “human-grade” claim must be manufactured in accordance with the applicable human food regulations for ready-to-eat human food (AAFCO, 2021, 2022)

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fucking human food isn't safe for human consumption any more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

With RFK in charge, I give it 3 months before all regulations on canned goods are rescinded, and one year before people start dying from botulism left right and center. And we'll all put up with it, because it's mainly the poors eating canned food anyway, and we don't have the wherewithal to revolt

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

You complain about microplastics in our food.

I am happy about the extra synthetic fiber intake.

We are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wet cat food is one of the worst things I've ever put in my mouth. Don't do it. It isn't worth it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For one thing, cats can't handle the level of salt in human diet. So to a human, cat food is very bland. This is also why one shouldn't feed cat salty human food.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's just...wrong? Cats have incredible kidneys and they can drink salt water.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

To save other readers a search

"Anything over one gram of salt per two pounds of body weight is cause for concern," which means for a 5 lbs cat, it would take 2.5 grams of salt to cause concern. That is approximately 10 small orders of fries at McDonald's, or two entire bags of salty ass chips

Of course they get sodium from their food so don't feed them chips, but also yeah they can eat a ton of salt

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's already cooked in the can

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Really? Figured it was raw.

...is the raw can cheaper?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's part of the process of canning. The cans must be heated to kill all bacteria inside, otherwise anaerobic bacteria can reproduce in the can and cause nasty diseases like botulism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

....

botulism has gotta drive the price down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

If you buy a dinged or damaged can, you can often get a discount on it if you ask. They may or may not be safe to eat, and it's hard to tell until you open it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Eating rotten canned food is just the poor man's Botox treatment

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

No. That wouldn't be repreaentative of what cats experience.

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