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I know the CEO dug himself a pretty deep hole recently.

I had been meaning to switch all the services I currently use over to proton - but his remarks gave me pause.

Is it still worth considering?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I don't get why people hate companies based on one person instead of the company as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I have to say I found this article insightful: "Does Proton really support Trump? A deeper analysis (and surprising findings)"

It inclines me to give him the benefit of the doubt. He clearly got stuck trying to make his point and at some point just stopped explaining. My feeling was that that was good decision because he stopped digging a deeper hole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

got stuck trying to make his point and at some point just stopped explaining.

Oof, super been there before

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

This is a great write up on an absolute storm in a teacup

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

maybe not important to some, but I was super-unpleasantly surprised a couple months ago because proton deleted my dormant account. my recovery account received a couple of warning emails (didn't check that one in ages) and when I finally got around to it, gone.

so if you're thinking of using it for anything long-term, know that you have to log in once in a while or it's gone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure that's just for the free tier accounts, but I could be wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Not giving my business to a Trump supporter.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Privacy Guides.org

This is a great site to see recommended products for use like proton and their alternatives.

While Proton does offer a lot of services that are useful, some people dont want to put all their eggs in one basket and use various products together.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Yes. If you don't agree with the CEO, keep in mind that he is not the owner, they moved to a nonprofit structure. Proton's CEO is not the first one saying stupid things, the same happened with Mozilla, Brave, and perhaps many other reputable groups.

Proton products are good, IMHO the layout is OK.

It's good, but not the only one. If you don't feel comfortable with Proton, go to Mailbox.org, Posteo, Tuta. They are smaller, with less products on their portfolio, but reputable and as good as Proton.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s worth it for sure. The product suite and convenience is really “the only” option for that price and while many seem to thing that proton is ready to sell out to American big tech, they won’t, simply because you can’t sell a non-profit organisation.

Tuta is decent email, but terrible UI.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

OpenAI is a non-profit too...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Technically, yes.
IF you're worried about the CEO, go for Tuta.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Apart from the CEO, I've been a bit concerned with the number of outages recently with quite poor and inconsistent communication or updates - not especially long outages but made much more stressful. There's something really off about the way they communicate things I've found. So that combined with the idiot CEO has made me start the process of moving away from Proton, I don't trust them any more.

I think the best strategy is to spread thinly, don't become reliant on any one provider.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

I'm quite happy with the products. Not as happy with the company after the event you mentioned. I upgraded my plan not long before that happened (they had a pretty good deal going) so I will stay with them for now but I will need to consider what to do once the prepaid time is up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

I think that there are several things to consider here:

  1. Is is usable software? Yes
  2. Is the company trustworthy? In my opinion not, a MAGA CEO is a security risk when you take a look at what is happening in the USA right now.
  3. Does it feel good to support a MAGA CEO? No
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you are going to spend time and money migrating to another service, choosing one that seems to be headed in the wrong direction seems ill-adviced.

European-alternatives.eu seems like a good resource to find alternative services.

Personally I am waiting to see if Murena.com restores their newxtcloud offering, as I am planning to move to /e/OS on my phone again and wouldn't mind sending a little money their way. I'm not into hypersecurity though, if you have very particular needs others will have better insights. For me having it hosted in the EU is good enough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They look pretty good; I can't tell from their site of they offer custom domain support for email.

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