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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Who knew everyone had the same password as me? I always thought I was the only 'hunter2' out there!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wow! Lemmy is now blurring passwords? It only shows asterisks to me!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Me too! I see

"Who knew everyone had the same password as me? I always thought I was the only '*******' out there!"

Lemmy rocks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would you give any AI your password???? People are so goddamn stupid

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Maybe they're asking chatgpt to generate a password for them

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

As a general rule of thumb, do not do this.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

Using an LLM as a password generator. The fuck? That’s like using the Sistine Chapel as inspiration for a post card.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It also literally says to not input sensitive data...

This is one of the first things I flagged regarding LLMs, and later on they added the warning. But if people don't care and are still gonna feed the machine everything regardless, then that's a human problem.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hello can you help me, my password is such and such and I can't seem to login.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People literally do this though. I work in IT and people have literally said, out loud, with people around that can hear what we're saying clearly, this exact thing.

I'm like.... I don't want your password. I never want your password. I barely know what my password is. I use a password manager.

IT should never need your password. Your boss and work shouldn't need it. I can log in as you without it most of the time. I don't, because I couldn't give any less of a fuck what the hell you're doing, but I can if I need to....

If your IT person knows what they're doing, most of the time for routine stuff, you shouldn't really see them working, things just get fixed.

Gah.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lmao my IT guy asks for our passwords to certain things on an annual basis, stores them as plain text in a fucking email.

First Time he did it I was like "uhh, not supposed to share that?" And he just insisted he needed it. Whatever, he wants to log in to my Autodesk account he's free to. Not sure how much damage he could do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

That's the problem, right there.

Companies either don't allow for IT oversight of accounts or charge more for accounts that can be overseen. Companies don't want to pay the extra, if that's even an option on the platform, so some passwords end up being fairly common knowledge among the IT staff.

As for your computer login? No thanks. Microsoft has been built pretty much from the ground up to be administratable. I can get into your files, check what you're running, extract data, modify your settings, adjust just about anything I want if I know what I'm doing. All without you realizing that I've done anything.

Companies like Autodesk really don't have that kind of oversight available for accounts that they're willing to provide to an administrator that's managing your access. I should be able to list the license that you've been given, download whatever software that license is associated to, and purchase/apply new licensing, all from a central control panel for the company under my own administrative user account for their site, whether I'm assigned any software/licensing or not. They don't. It makes my job very complicated when that's the case.

In the event you brick your computer (or lose it, or destroy it, or something.... Whether intentional or not), I sometimes need your password to go download your software and install it, then apply your license to it, so that it's ready to go when you get your system back. You might lose any customizations, but you'll at least have the tools to do the job.

On the flip side, an example of good access is with Microsoft 365. You're having a problem finding an email, I can trace the message in the control panel, get it's unique ID, set your mailbox to provide myself full access to see it, then switch mailboxes to yours, while I'm still signed in as myself, find the message you accidentally moved into the draft messages folder and move it back to your inbox. Then remove my access and the message just appears in your inbox without you doing anything. I didn't need to talk to you, I didn't need your password... Nothing. No interaction, just fixed.

There's hundreds of examples of both good and bad administrative access, and it varies dramatically depending on the software vendor. In a perfect world I would have tools like what I get from exchange online for all the software and tools you use. Fact is, most companies are just too lazy to do it, instead of paying the developers to do things well, they'd rather give the money to their shareholders and let us IT folks suffer. They don't give a shit about us.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

LOL people are teaching ChatGPT their passwords? Why?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Because they’re technologically fucking brain dead

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Lazy copy/pasting I bet.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

People are so stupid that a lot of them believe ChatGPT is intelligent.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No need for personal attacks. Since you won't define it I will:

The ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills (from Oxford Languages)

I would argue this applies to ChatGPT. ChatGPT exists under the hood as a neutral network, and is clearly capable of acquiring knowledge during training. And ChatGPT is also clearly capable of applying that knowledge in producing answers to questions or novel solutions to problems.

Based on this definition, I would argue that ChatGPT is intelligent. Whether ChatGPT is sentient or not is a very different question. I would argue not, but again, that depends on the definition of sentience.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hey bud I've got a hint for you to take, behold the list of people who wanted to have this conversation with your stupid socially inept ass:

...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Add me to that list then, dick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I feel like I had to go at least that hard since they continued their bullshit even after the first insulting one liner. Clearly they're too dense to screw off otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I had a student graduate recently who told me that he thought that technology just worked before joining my team of computer lab managers. I suspect that people think that tech in general JUST GOES.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Stupid is too harsh. They could be as intelegent as you or me. but... they are told propaganda/marketing, the thing is made to hide its rough edges and the hype from the propaganda machine puts people in a hazey mindset where its hard to think.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They could be as intelligent as you or me.

They are certainly pretty stupid if they are as intelligent as me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Who are you, wisest of all the greeks?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

lol insert George Carlin reference about average people here

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think the average person is not very smart, especially considering the USA, Russia, China, and India are large parts of the world population. Now realize that half of everyone below median intellect is even dumber than that. The fact that propaganda and hype are highly effective to start with is evidence of our lacking capabilities as a species.

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