I really hope it uses music from Billy Idol's Cyberpunk album!
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Neuromancer being made by a MegaCorp is somewhat ironic
We don't talk about Fight Club...
I don't think we're doing irony anymore. It's all prophecy now.
Fine.
I'll settle for it.
Still, stiiiill mad that the planned TV series for Trent Reznor's Year Zero universe never happened.
I love sci-fi, I love dystopia, I love cyberpunk. I strongly dislike neuromancer. I don't like Gibson's writing style. He's horrible with characters, dialogue, and action. I understand he built an incredible world, I just don't like what he filled it with. All that being said, I hope the fans enjoy this iteration, but after what Apple did to Foundation, I wouldn't be surprised to see werewolves pop up in the fucking show. Good luck, fans.
I have high hopes. Everything I've watched on Apple had been terrific.
Foundation, For All Mankind is an excellent alternate history, Constellation is starting out strong, Severance is one of my favorite psychological thriller, Monarch was a pretty good Godzilla show, Silo was fucking excellent Fallout esqe show, and the first season of Ted Lasso was pretty good.
I think Apple has produced some of my favorite series, but there have been stinkers. Foundation was a snoozefest and See wasted some good world-building on a meh storyline and cringe characters. I didn't last two episodes of Shrinking.
Predestination, an Australian movie based on Robert Heinlein's "All You Zombies..."
One of the things I like about this movie is that it's set in Heinlein's "futuristic" version of the 1970's, not the 1970's we got.
If they do Neuromancer right, it'll have pocket sized VCR machines and the televsion screens will be grwy, not blue.
Hope so! Shadowrun, which is basically Gibson's sprawl plus magic, set in the 2050s in original editions from around 1990 -
Later editions added wireless computer connections to keep up with present technology, but wifi just doesn't feel cyberpunk, so they later added some weird lore reason to go back to needing to plug in, for recent editions. Good change.
Read [or reread] "Damnation Alley" by Roger Zelazny. You could argue that it's the original 'punk' science fiction novel. A hard bitten Hell's Angel is chosen to drive across the post-atomic wasteland to deliver a life giving serum to the last city on the East Coast.
When I think about it, I decide that the Atomic War took place circa 1970 and keep all the background details in that era.
I LOVE Shadowrun, but it would be so criminally expensive to do (and do well) as live action that I would be genuinely worried if someone tried.
Henson could do it.
But it would mean that Disney would have to buy it first.
Watch Season 1 of Altered Carbon and then Bright (the Will Smith movie) get the people involved in both and lock them in a room with the Secrets of Power trilogy and dont let them out until they have scripts.
Come to think of it, Shadowrun lore is a Cyberpunk 2077 crossover with The Witcher (the awakening ≈ the conjunction), and witchers could work fine on SR physical-adept rules... 🤔
I’m fairly excited. I just happen to be re~~ading~~listening to Nuromancer right now. Their have definitely been more bad adaptations of his work than good… luckily I have a soft spot for B-Movies too :-)
I hope this comes out good though! It’s such an interesting time with the current debate around AI… hopefully they can restrain themselves from trying to make it to topical.
Johnny Mnemonic was rad as fuck.
Strongly agree.
Very interested in how much money they're willing to throw at this. The broad strokes plot of Neuromancer makes for a pretty compelling heist story, but it's a heist that takes place in space, mostly from the perspective of cyberspace, and all of it reads like it would cost a lot of money to recreate. It's also near certain that all of the subtext is going to get scrubbed out of the show, because Wintermute is the kinda dangerous AI that spooks people, and to my understanding Apple doesn't like negative portrayals of AI.
It might have some pretty visuals, but it's hard to trust Apple to make anything punk.
What could be more cyberpunk than Apple™️? It's one of the worlds most powerful corporations, they have suicide nets for radically mistreated employees and normalized hyper invasive marketing, anti consumer consumerism, and put it in all your pocket so it can literally predict/shape your thoughts!
I want a "Hell Comes to Frogtown" level budget, or nothing.
It can't be slick.
Remember Johnny Mnemonic with Keanu Reeves? The original short story takes place in the Neuromancer universe. I loved that movie.
I once spoke with William Gibson when he came to my city for a book club and told him about it. He said he really didn't like the movie and it turned out into what he considered a joke. It really surprised me.
They spent a ton on 'Foundation.'
Such a good book. Just don't let Gibson be a narrator.
Yeah like they did with Johnny Mnemonic and The Peripheral.
I was making a joke about the famously bad audio book Gibson did for Neuromancer. I've listened to it, it's really bad.