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The Munich Security Conference report warns that Trump’s proposed territorial acquisitions, including Greenland, Panama, and Canada, have damaged the U.S.'s global standing, making it seen as a risk rather than a stabilizing force.

The report highlights the decline of U.S.-led global leadership amid a shift toward a multipolar world, with China and Russia expanding influence.

European leaders will press U.S. officials on NATO commitments and Ukraine support.

Survey data shows U.S. risks are now perceived as greater than Russia’s in many G7 nations.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

There’s only one person in America that’s making these idiotic proposals, so if it’s that much of a risk, it might be an easy thing for a group of foreign nations with some resources to rectify.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

A little Manifest Destiny don’t hurt nobody. Except for that one time. Well, maybe a couple times. Every time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

You forgot Gaza in the summary, for a round number of 4. Will he name a fifth? I’m trying to guess who it would be, maybe Antarctica?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (5 children)

This may actually have pretty big consequences for the US, especially if it doesn't cool-down quickly. How long before some EU nation start to build some military ties with Russia and China ? Sure it'll take decades to build an alliance, but a couple of liason officer and a joint exercise, most likely using counter-terrorism or anti-piracy as a pretext, may happen sooner than Trump think.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why do you think that Europeans are as stupid as North Americans? Sure, here in Canada and the US we love to switch to worse options because “change” but generally the EU is much better about that kind of thing. They’ll strengthen their own militaries and continue working together as they have been.

Also Russia? Really? The ones actually attacking European countries instead of just threatening? Really?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I agree with the sentiment, but I don't think a military alliance with Russia is even on the table. That'd be replacing one abusive "ally" with another.
Just because America is suddenly untrustworthy and a risk, doesn't mean that Russia isn't a threat anymore.

Imo, Europe is better off forging its own path, only collaborating with countries such as China when it is in our strategic interest to do so.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Guaranteed Putin has put a bug in his ear that only great leaders expand their territories and get enshrined in history.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

We were a perfectly safe and peaceful country before with our massive military and enough nuclear weapons and nerve gasses to kill every living thing on the planet. Safe!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

BuT hE Is mAkiNG aMeRiCA GreAT aGaIN!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

America was insulated from WW2 due to those whole "oceans" thing going on, but European countries take the threat of rightwing land grabbers a lot more seriously.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some of us Canadians take it quite seriously too these days. Unfortunately we also have a good number of right-wing traitors who have long wanted to turn the country into the USA.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In some senses this is exactly what Trump wants. He would refuse to be respectful and get respect diplomatically so instead its a "respect me or else" stance, both in an economically and militarily threatening sense.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 month ago

Trump IS a security risk. Especially when he is "leading" anything.

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