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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've had 2 instances where the Shift+F10 method didn't work on a Windows 11 Home edition install. 1 was a brand new HP laptop I set up for a friend. It came with a bunch of bloatware so I created a bootable USB and reinstalled the OS. It didn't pull up a command prompt when I tried the command no matter I did. The second was at work. I accidentally let it update during the setup and afterwards it accepted the bypass command, but still never gave me the option to log in without a Microsoft account. I have a feeling they're phasing that option out for Home.

At least Pro has the domain join option. Still it sucks that Bitlocker gets set up automatically and associates the key with the first Microsoft account you sign in with.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

S mode!

If you buy one in s mode, then you can't run 3rd party programs or particular built-in ones. That includes command prompt, which is why shift-f10 didn't work. It's ok as you can get out of it by, going to the ms store after logging in as an admin!

We now see the problem with s mode in the out of box experience.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You're right, it was in S mode. I had to create a junk email address to unlock it. The original account was an admin but it wouldn't remove S mode without an MS account.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Ctrl+F10 and oobe\bypassnro

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Turn on airplane mode

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Okay, this was a year ago. Still, why is anyone at that level setting up there own computer? I would pay someone to do it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

He's not. His assistants tech team's intern mentioned it through their communication app Elon can shadow read.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Political relevance be damned, anyway...

You can press SHIFT+F10 keys to open Command Prompt.

Execute OOBE\BYPASSNRO command then.

After this, setup will reboot the computer and after reboot, you’ll get a new option I don’t have Internet or Continue with limited setup to skip the Internet requirement.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

This helps me remember:

OOBE - Out-Of-Box Experience
NRO - Network Restriction Offline

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I did this when installing Windows 11 for a friend, was also my first experience installing Windows 11 as well. Having to open a command line during the installation process really nullifies the "Windows easy" and "linux hard" stereotype.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Also, make sure the network isn't plugged in. If Windows detects a connection you have to start all over.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Bill Gates openly likes vaccines so Microsoft is the tech bros you're allowed to hate in that world. Not a compliment to them or anything, I'm a Linux guy myself but that's the right wing motivation for the Windows hate.

[–] [email protected] 201 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So the "tech genius" doesn't know how to install windows without a Microsoft account and doesn't know how to Google it?

May I introduce the man who wants you to think he is a genius!

Thanks Elon for being so transparently incompetent.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yet my parents still believe that he must have had some competence to be in the place he is at now. Illusion of meritocracy blinds so much.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I'm surprised he isn't exclusively Linux.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Yet his Swasticars strip every ounce of data from it owners…

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 week ago (3 children)

WHO THE FUCK SAYS "PC LAPTOP"??

Did he type that from his laptop phone? Maybe speech-to-text from his cell phone smartwatch?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I might be dumb. PC vs Mac is a common way to differentiate. Laptop vs stationary is a common way to differentiate. Isn't "PC Laptop" a pretty descriptive and non-overlapping way to unambinguiusly distinguish the item?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

It's mostly a marketing gimmick, same as people who say "tablet or iPad".

In this case in particular is complaining about windows, it would be a stretch to think it's an apple computer.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He needs to dumb it down for his followers

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People who know about Mac laptops.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Ah yes, I love the Microsoft Personal Computer 11

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In that case it would be a Windows laptop. PC stands for Personal Computer. It has nothing to do with the OS.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

PC absolutely has to do with the OS in certain contexts. Do you not remember the "Hi, I'm a Mac." "And I'm a PC." Line of commercials?

Example of the usage: https://www.computerworld.com/article/1568544/mac-vs-pc-cost-analysis-how-does-it-all-add-up.html

This is because long ago there was the Apple Macintosh and the IBM Personal Computer. So things that were "PC compatible" were not Macs. So the term got applied to Windows stuff. It's not used very much now, but that article is from 2007.

So while it's correct terminology to say Windows are PCs and Macs aren't, it's pretty outdated and another example of his failure to be recent on tech trends. I don't think I've used the term PC to mean Windows since 2020 at least. Probably longer.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Mac vs PC ads back in the day influenced language a bit

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you want to eat up Apple's marketing then yeah.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A good chunk of the population did.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even if that were true, does that mean that we should all accept it and drink the Apple Kool-Aid? A PC was, is and will always be a Personal Computer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kinda? Whether you like it not that's just how society functions. You either acknowledge what society decides or you end up becoming the guy who argues that drawing swastikas doesn't make you a nazi because it's a symbol of luck.

And if you want to go down the rabbit hole of "PC is personal computer" good luck defining what a computer is without defaulting to what society thinks a computer is, because technically your phone is a computer that is for your personal use. Your phone is a PC. In a sense so is your TV and your gaming console and the steam deck and possibly even your fridge. Maybe even your car.

Save yourself the headache and use PC as you understand it while accepting that others have a different meaning for PC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

or you end up becoming the guy who argues that drawing swastikas doesn’t make you a nazi because it’s a symbol of luck.

That's a very poor and far-fetched analogy.

good luck defining what a computer is

A computer that runs an OS designed to be used with kb+mouse. See? It wasn't that hard. Refusing to call a Windows computer a "PC" as if that were the only thing it could be doesn't mean that I'm obtuse. It just means that I refuse to abide by the rules set by a set of crappy, inaccurate ads a massive corporation ran like 13 years ago.

Save yourself the headache and use PC as you understand it while accepting that others have a different meaning for PC.

Thanks, but no. If you want to misuse the term, go ahead. I'm just as free to point out the incorrect use of the term if I want to.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's a very poor and far-fetched analogy.

You're right. I should've said "the guy who argues swastika isn't just a nazi symbol", because that's essentially what you're saying: PCs aren't just windows machines.

A computer that runs an OS designed to be used with kb+mouse. See? It wasn't that hard.

You do know that Android and most modern gaming consoles support kb+m? And I case you want to hang onto to the word "designed", as in they're designed to work without a physical kb+m, then I guess the moment I install SteamOS my PC it stops being a PC?

You're doing the same thing you're complaining about, using a generally accepted definition of a word instead of the actual definition.

Thanks, but no. If you want to misuse the term, go ahead. I'm just as free to point out the incorrect use of the term if I want to.

So it's okay to misuse words when you also misuse them, but not okay when you don't misuse them? What are you, a self-important hypocrite?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're right. I should've said "the guy who argues swastika isn't just a nazi symbol", because that's essentially what you're saying

Ok yeah, sure. A couple of ads a random tech company ran are the same thing as the Nazi regime. Give me a break. It's an erroneous analogy and you know it.

You do know that Android and most modern gaming consoles support kb+m?

They support it but that's not what they were designed for. Don't be obtuse.

So it's okay to misuse words when you also misuse them, but not okay when you don't misuse them? What are you, a self-important hypocrite?

A) I'm not misuing anything B) You're starting to sound quite like a douche.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Fuck, even more garbage into out AI garbage dump.

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