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Sealioning (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"I think eggplant tastes horrible"

"Got a source to back that up?"

Yep, sounds about like some motherfuckers around here.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Online Discussions be like:

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This comic sucks and openly defends racist rhetoric. Why is it so highly upvoted on Lemmy?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That's not what this comic is about, although I can kind of see why you thought that.

Instead of just downvoting you, shakes head at fellow lemmings, I'll explain what sealioning is.

"Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity, and feigning ignorance of the subject matter." - Wikipedia

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Other related argument techniques used on the internet (and elsewhere) often commingled with Sealioning:

Butwhataboutism is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense of the original accusation.

Also, ignoring the rebuttal and constantly shifting the attack to a tangentially related part of the discussion forcing the opponent to defend and rebut each new point, generally exhausting them and causing frustration and irritation.

JAQing off is a way of attempting to make wild accusations acceptable (and hopefully not legally actionable) by framing them as questions rather than statements.

Moving the Goalposts in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. Closely related to butwhataboutism.

Appeal to Hypocrisy (tu quoque) basically tries to invalidate your opponent’s argument by using a “your side did it too, worse” and shift the argument to them defending themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah, I can't help but feel that the message of this comic would be turned on it's head if you'd replace the sea lion with a Jew, black, Palestinian, gay, trans, etc....

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I think an important part is that the sea lion is pretending to be civil while still being extremely annoying. It's adjacent to the whole thing of saying vile things with civil language (then getting upset when people respond uncivilly).

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I remember this from several years ago. Not one Youtube commenter took her side

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That man has the patience of an angel.

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