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They're using image recognition to choose candidate targets which are then passed to humans. Seems like an obvious thing to do.
Yeah, you can say that until it's the cops doing exactly that to you and yours... 🤬
What do you mean? Are you confusing using imagine recognition to find candidate targets with things like facial recognition and/or unrestrained AI?
Don't play dumb; profiling is at the core of all those tools, and human bias taints each of them. To insinuate that simply by syntactical difference, the police aren't intrinsically, murderously bigoted, is either naive AF or bootlickin'. Which is it?
Fantastic, now all the blame for human collateral will be placed on AI instead of humans.
Truly a world changing innovation.
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This is the original source article incase anyone wants to read it. It comes from a Bloomberg interview with the CTO of Central Command
All you people commenting ignorantly without reading the article or knowing anything about the subject.
The AI isn't making any decisions. It's being used to help identify targets, which are then acted upon--or not--by humans.
This isn't the big, scary thing you're all making it out to be.
The object recognition algorithms are used to identify potential targets. Humans then operate weapons systems. The US has reportedly used the software to identify enemy rockets, missiles, drones, and militia facilities.
Couple of important things to point out:
- "The object recognition algorithms are used to identify potential targets. Humans then operate weapons systems." So AI isn't finding a target and then firing on it's own. It's using AI Vision Systems to locate and prioritize targets, firing authority remains with the platform operator.
- Ukraine is already doing this with their drones, I was watching a video feed of it just last night, thanks Binkov!
Every time we see articles like this, I'd point out that Phalanx CIWS can and does operate in a fully-autonomous mode, without a human in the loop to authorize firing. That's been around since 1980.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS
An entirely self-contained unit, the mounting houses the gun, an automated fire-control system and all other major components, enabling it to automatically search for, detect, track, engage, and confirm kills using its computer-controlled radar system. Owing to this self-contained nature, Phalanx is ideal for support ships, which lack integrated targeting systems and generally have limited sensors.
The only inputs required for operation are 440 V AC three-phase electric power at 60 Hz and water (for electronics cooling).
Yeah, I love that feature. I remember touring a ship and they mentioned they have to disable the Phalanx going into port, or it would mow down the entire downtown skyline.
So perhaps not the best example to tout automation in this case.
Hey uh, wtf?
Hilariously short sighted. What are they gonna train the AI on? All the drone strikes where they didn't hit any bystanders? I think they're gonna need more than the 15 or so data points that gets us.
Simple, just redefine "combatant" to mean "any male person of roughly adult age". Problem solved, no more non combatant kills /s
I thought this had been going on for awhile now with computers identifying potential targets:
"The object recognition algorithms are used to identify potential targets. Humans then operate weapons systems. The US has reportedly used the software to identify enemy rockets, missiles, drones, and militia facilities."
I suppose it was the human intervention that made them consistently mistake unarmed civilians for enemy combatants - what could possibly go wrong with this approach?
I was going to ask who gets charged with the warcrimes when a computer bombs a wedding, but that's not likely to change when the current answer is "nobody" or perhaps "the journalists that reported on it."
Finally, did the biggest AI vendor's primary product inexplicably shit the bed like a week ago? Yes? Oh no...
the human (really the military and government entity that employs them) who pulled the trigger not the computer that identified it. You see the human was just given a possible target but they did not actually need to fire.
Yep - that'd be the human intervention I mentioned, which is now being removed. It was clearly the people that were the ones shifting the targeting away from the legitimate military targets to civilians - AI wouldn't get regularly things wrong, right?
the humans not being removed. Didn't you read the quote I pasted from the article that you replied to in this chain??? I mean I went to the the trouble of reading the article and copying and pasting the relevant part. Im not saying im a hero but...
How long before the AI decides the best way to stop the war is to bomb the generals ordering it on both sides?
A week before they patch that out and replace the generals with more AI.
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