Did something change in the last day or two? Looks like downvotes are gone again, but there was no post about it here π€
this post was submitted on 30 Nov 2023
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Noticed it too. Sneaky admins. Why would you bother with a fucking poll if you are going to change it anyways.
My problem with downvotes is that people are using downvotes to downvote that things they don't like.
I have observed people heavily downvoting the following things:
- SPH
- Humiliation
- Cocks/gay
- Cuckold content
- Male gonewild posters
- Celebs
- OC posters that are not a perfect 10/10
- Niche fetishes
This leads to
- People not wanting to post things
- People who do like those things not discovering those things in hot/top
- Less activity on the site overall because of decreased morale of posters especially OC posters
This is why I am in favor of disallowing downvotes.
Having upvotes is enough to determine which is "good" or "great" or even "bad" content in a community. Because the upvote count relative to other posts in the community tells how it was perceived by the community.
Having a more "targeted" home page may help people find things that they like instead of an endless stream of a big jumble of random content.
Reddit doesn't have this problem because no one browses the entirety of NSFW content by new instead there is an "all" but even that had NSFW content removed from it. So really people are browsing only by the things they have subscribed to meaning if someone were to downvote a post they don't like they would have to go out of their way to see it.
I mean...what did you think downvotes were for?
Lots of people browsing all local communities probably downvoted posts in communities they weren't members of. In especially more niche communities this can mean that the downvotes from people who aren't in it can drown out the upvotes from people who are. Allowing only upvoting means that the number reflects who many people actually actively liked it
Edit: ah sorry, just read the comment from @[email protected] below and they said pretty much the same thing I did but better.
Downvotes should be reserved for things like spam, links that lead to malware, posts that are off-topic, etc. Things that mods would normally remove.
No.
It is like and dislike.
Stop trying to justify it as anything else.
Up- and downvoting are ment to be opinion based. You are supposed to upvote what you like and downvote what you don't like. Things like spam, or other things that are against the rules are ment to be reported. The reason for this is that the report will reach a moderator, but a moderator has no way to automatically be notified whenever you downvote something.
That's why the report button exists.
Downvotes are for down-voting. The entire idea is to give feedback. You are positing that it's only meant for cruft, when the entire is for unliked content, hence, a downvote.
If I show up in the thread and start posting puke pics, I expect downvotes being the compass to telling me where I'm not welcome.
You're saying that all content should be welcome, unless it's for the silo reference you mentioned. Disagree. If you're being downvoted, this might not be your crowd. Your assertion certainly says so.
The problem is that people downvote from c/all, just because Joe Blow doesn't like it, so content is buried that that specific community would like.
Hence, in the original comment, what seems to be your average straight guy seeing cocks and gay stuff will downvote, whereas people that subscribe to that community would enjoy it. I have niches that your average dude finds weird too, and I don't want stuff I would like to be buried just because MOST people don't want to see it.
Sure you can bring up that they should mute those communities, but everyone knows people just j/o and scroll and don't bother doing anything other than one-tap or click feedback.
So limiting the downvote to people subscribed to that community makes a lot more sense. It makes sense overall now that I think about it. There is stuff I would downvote on my regular account if it's posted in the wrong place that I would upvote if it was in the right place.
Itβs wild how much people care about downvotes. From policing what downvotes βmeanβ to outright disabling them.
Why does it matter? I mean that sincerely.
As someone who posts OC, disabling down votes has been a big improvement.
I post pictures of my wife and I. We do this for our own pleasure and to help contribute to the community.
We are not conventionally attractive, but on Reddit we were able to find many places where we could feel welcomed, valued, and hot!
When I started posting here our content was heavily downvoted, even in communities appropriate for it. This was very discouraging. It made us feel bad about doing something we should be doing for fun.
Removing downloads has been a positive change for us. It's made us feel better about posting here.
I would prefer to keep no down votes for the time being. The biggest problem facing this platform right now is a lack of people posting OC. We need more contributors.
To focus should be on making things as comfortable and positive as possible for the people who choose to contribute.
It's only been a short amount of time since the change was implemented. Is there any data to show if there has been a change in the amount of OC posted?
I hope you keep posting! Keep up the good work.
I think likes are your best gauge for your best content. Dislikes could be easily used as an indicator to gauge audiences you dont target in the same manner. Value in all data.
only members of that community.
Local is ment to discover communities and subscribed is ment for content that you like, see and want to follow. If you don't like something, just don't interact with it, simply as that, if see you something that does not fit the community or breaks the rules, go ahead downvote + report it.
If there is content you li
big edit: When I first register here, I don't like yiff, and thats me thats that, but I didn't start downvoting every post I saw, I dud start blocking them, and that was on local. Today I browser and no yify content has shown up.
Nah that's how you use the platform..
I came to this instance to browse local and block the communities I don't like. I'm not going to manage 100 subscriptions and limit myself to it. To me this instance solved all of my problems.
Everyone should be able to downvote.
No. You can check previous announcement for the reasons.
I'm not able to explain here that we disabled downvotes not for algorithmic reasons like TikTok, Twitter, etc; but to protect posters. It is also funny that people who do not share any content make this criticism.
Well I hope you have no opinion on music if you aren't dropping albums yourself..
Without down votes, votes are meaningless.
I guess Iβll upvote this..
I agree though
This whole thing is stupid..
Why would I upvote when my choices to express my satisfaction with a post is intentionally limited?
Having abilities and then them being taken away, and now a "vote" with no options I agree with, feels wrong to me.
Exactly this.