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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wtf is this meme border?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Haha, my poorly googled current events assignment is highly relevant after all these years! Take that you dork try hards!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Just mineral or ground rocks work just as well. I hate my wife’s soft face scrub, i need that shit that feels like I’m scrubbing my face with sandpaper, to exfoliate well. They sell one that has ground up lava rock, i love that shit, and it makes me wonder why anyone ever thought plastic bits was a good idea

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They probably had some extra plastic to offload lol.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's not what microplasitcs are! Does anyone knows what micro is at this point?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

1x10^-6 m.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Plastic gotta be this age's lead/quicksilver.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago

meme

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is. Along with PFAS.

[+] [email protected] -45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The PFAS/PFOA controversy, is mostly about banning these commodity products so that the proprietary, non-commodity alternatives by western companies can become the only high temperature dry lubricant on sale.

Maybe in another 60 years we'll have the same controversy about them !

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you at some point read about how some of them, such as the ones used in frying pans, are unlikely to cause problems in the human body, and then completely stopped looking into it further?

It's a massive group of compounds, some of which currently look to be quite safe, but a significant number of which also have fully verified dangers (especially some compounds required for production).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, I read about it and the teflon on frying pan is explicitely NOT the problem. I understand that pointing to frying pans and saying "PTFE !!" is the attention grabbing thing to do. But there is no danger here.

The problem is the manufacturing plants leaking PFOA/PFAS into their surrounding environment !

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe lead with that, instead of the conspiracy angle.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's been well known for over 50 years, why do you think now, all of a sudden, this is becoming an issue now ? This is because there are new coatings, silicon based PTFE-free coatings and PTFE-based metamaterial that combine titanium, ceramic and/or PCD.

As the manufacturer invest in this new technology, they either restrict PTFE commodity manufacturers out of their market or merely stop funding lobbying that protects the PTFE.

This is not a conspiracy theory, simple emergent interests that do not require a coordination.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool.

But the reason you're being downvoted, is that instead of commenting this, you made a comment that sounded like you were dismissing the dangers of PFAS, and dismissing it as the modern-day equivalent to lead, asbestos, and the like.

Which is what it is, and you clearly agree that it is.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it isnt, its about the production precursors being literal poison for anything they get into with no chance of breaking down. Its a unusually harmful and persistive compound.

[+] [email protected] -28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

And the current goal is to ban them all

https://www.wcl.org.uk/transitioning-to-a-pfas-free-economy.asp

Leaving us only able to buy the proprietary alternative of an oligopoly, instead of regulating the production of this commodity.

End result, we pay for it all and get a degradation in quality.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hey friend you know the chemicals they make those things from are like WILDLY carconogenic right? And that PFAs and their cousins last forever and don't break down in the environment?

These chemicals are being banned because humans got too good at making super stable fuck-you-big molecules that just so happen to be wildly incompatible with anything that has DNA. These chemicals are literally everywhere with water treatment facilities having acceptable limits 2ppb or less. Yea, B, Billon. The thing with that amount though, is even THAT isn't safe, its just regulable. Here's an oversimplified video on the subject by Veritasium, the clickbait headline is just that. I believe this is also on nebula if you'd prefer to avoid youtube.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's the proprietary alternative?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dude it's literally poison what do you want??? It also leeches into the environment extremely easily.

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