i think trump was bluffing
this post was submitted on 03 Feb 2025
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hopefully this tariff trouble will end pretty soon, and with that, things will get cheaper for both canada and mexico
The thing is, it's almost certain that the orange idiot will do this again next month, next quarter, next year, ad infinitum. He's also shown that it's mostly bluster, Canada called his bluff and he blinked. So now it's noise, risk, and unnecessary cost.
There's also no confidence that this nonsense will stop in four years, no confidence that another Trump won't be elected next time.
America's burned the last shred of respect it had left, and it's gone, for decades if not forever.
Every other country is going to do its best to divest itself of every dependency on the USA it can; find other buyers and find other sellers.
So what happens after the 15th time Trump does this?
He backed down like the weak nepo baby he his
Yeah I’m still never knowingly buying another US product ever again. Fuck them.
This is a key point. A lot of Canadians are going to avoid buying American, at which point it doesn't matter if they're product is on the shelves or if the price didn't go up, so there will still be some economic impact even if our leaders kiss and make up.
Trump didn't piss off one person, he pissed off millions, then gave them a target. And this isn't a unique event. Similar responses are happening in the EU and elsewhere.
Im skeptical that anything positive will come of this for either of our countries anyway. Things will just continue to get progressively worse for the working class.
Tariffs can have certain benefits if wielded with finesse in the right circumstances. Trump uses anything he has like a blunt object. The goal of the retaliatory tariffs was to cause key parts of America pain, rather than mostly Canada feeling the pain of these tariffs.
As for helping the working class. No tariffs are better than tariffs for that working class, but that group has been neglected or targeted for a long time.
Canada should keep imposing the Tariffs until March.
Trump didn't expect Canada to hit back, so he is unprepared for the fallout. If Canada also pauses until March, Trump will use the time to prepare and he'll reimpose the Tariffs in march
This is the part the media and the economists get wrong. This was never about trade or the economy. Trump understands neither. What he does understand is power. Control. It is how he has always "negotiated". Find some pressure points you control, press on it (even if it makes no sense or, worse, actually causes suffering) and then wait for someone to offer something and declare victory.
No grand plan, no scheme, no 3d chess, no deep thought. Just flex and collect.
My thoughts, exactly.
This move was simple intelligence gathering. Now he knows how the world will respond to this threat. He's far more prepared to do it for real the next time.
Canada should hold their ground and call his bluff. Make him suffer for just the idea of threatening us.
I’m an American in a blue state and I voted for Kamala. I fully support this!
American in a swing state, voted blue down ballot. Make us suffer for electing this moron.
So that would give Canada and Mexico to diversify and find alternative markets after Trump capitulated.
That would also give Trump time to find alternative markets to prepare to reimpose the tariffs
He pissed off the two biggest trade partners, already fucked over farmers with China with the last round of tariffs that never recovered, and most of the EU. Him and his idiot brain trust isn't exactly swimming in markets.
Also he doesn't want to source anything from anywhere, he's stuck in some dementia addled past that never existed where America produced everything and thinks he can do this overnight.
I get it now, 10000 Mexican troops on the US border with Mexico, 1000 times more fentanyl seized along the Southern border, so that means ten Canadians deployed along the Northern border. Easy!
All that noise lol.
First tariffs on "day 1" , then Feb 1, then Feb 4, now Mar 1. I wonder how much more credibility he even has left on this.
He... Never had any credibility? Everybody knows Trump doesn't understand anything, and all his decisions are fed to him by handlers/oligarchs/lobbyists.
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