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There is a coup occurring now

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[–] [email protected] 211 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Fully understand what is happening here in America. The far right has destroyed the rule of law and are just acting to destroy our government. Don’t let this happen to your country. Don’t let Elon Musk any where near your elections or near your country.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this how the Russians felt when Rasputin was to influencing the Tsar?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I think we should test if Musk is as durable as Rasputin.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Musk is saying that they aren't going to pay US contractors for up to a month.

There is no question.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Are there no drug tests for political advisors or something?
I'd have expected this for a position with much power - just like in the military.

Or am I that far off here from reality?

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Musk has no clearance, wasn't voted in, is uncredentialed, and unqualified.

The fact that the government is just sitting back and allowing this is disgusting.

All of it to line their pockets with what will be akin to monopoly money once they destroy the country.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's exactly what I don't understand
There are safe guards for exactly that shit in law (at least I think/hope so), but seemingly no one has the guts to step up

But I have to admit, that I don't know the American laws at all, and with that don't know what their actual options are

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

government is just sitting back

They fired a bunch of FBI and DoJ, so if they're sitting back it's because they're unemployed.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Musk doesn't hold any official position.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So, how can he even do all that shit and the organisations don't just tell him to go choke on a dick?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If they push back, that person gets fired and replaced by a toady who won't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, talk about a hard place and a rock...

Fucking sucks, that there is seemingly no leverage against those idiots

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Mostly because it's so brazen and fucking insane that people don't even know what to do about it. If someone walked into your office building while waving a knife around and shouted, "get the fuck out or I'm gonna start stabbing people!" what do you think you'd do?

My guess is that everyone is going to run out because we've been engrained to recognize the mechanisms in place to prevent and protect from these types of things. Anyone thinking anything other than getting the fuck out would probably be thinking "it's not worth it, let the police handle it."

Let's say you start shouting, "that's illegal, go choke on a dick! C'mon y'all, there's only one of him and many of us; we can't wait for the police, ACAB!!!" I'd probably commend you when I read the article or your obituary, but everyone else in the office is going to be concerned with saving themselves and letting whatever contingencies kick in.

Everyone with the power to stop this is sitting on their hands while waiting for someone else to step up. And we, the people? We've been trampled and subjugated for so long that now that we're being told to rise up, we don't know how. "Rise up against the system you helped manufacture? How? Y'all arrest and kill us in droves just for threatening money, much less people in power."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Although this article I read a few days ago focuses on protests, it somehow resembles this situation imho

https://crimethinc.com/2025/01/28/its-safer-in-the-front-taking-the-offensive-against-tyranny

If you always just duck down to survive, they'll just feel confirmed and encouraged.
Every bit of resistance costs them time and money, and signals to the rest, that there is another way, than to just buckle down

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s pretty simple: shoot him in the face.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not an American, but my guess is that they would have to sue and then discover that the judges are all toeing the party line.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, the last years seemingly were a build up to let Trump live his dictator dream

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

The chancellor is taking power lol

[–] [email protected] 274 points 2 months ago (17 children)

It's a fascist coup.

They took control of the judiciary some time ago, they recently seized the executive and now they're destroying any remaining institutional power that can oppose them.

The current regime is not legitimate.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 months ago

The coup has already happened.

[–] [email protected] 182 points 2 months ago (6 children)

It's not a coup if it's not against the Leadership of a sovereign nation

What it is, is a Constitutional Crisis led by the Executive Branch (Trump, and his minion Musk with Trumps permission and direction) disregarding Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution is known as the "taxing and spending clause." Clause 2 is known as the "borrowing clause.", against the Legislative Branch (Congress), which will ultimately be decided by the Judicial Branch (The Supreme Court)

The very bad news is all 3 Branches of US Government are squarely in control of Republicans, since the last election in November, who are blindly supporting Trump

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's not a coup if it's not against the Leadership of a sovereign nation

I don't think that's a prerequisite. We talk of military coups all the time and most of them are thoroughly domestic affaires.

That doesn't detract from the rest of what you said however.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you're confusing the words sovereign and domestic in a way I don't understand. again, a coup is the illegal taking and transferring of power from the leader of a sovereign nation to someone or a group of someone's not duly empowered to assume that role. that's not what's transpiring currently. but we sure as shit are in the middle of a constitutional crisis between the executive branch and the legislative branch.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is not a courtroom, and your prescriptive weasel words are tiresome.

This is a coup that started January 6, 2021, and is continuing now.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It still could be a coup inside the coup, where Musk takes control of so much of the administration that he can set the stage for a final coup to take down Trump and impose himself.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (5 children)

It's also a breach of the oath taken to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. But an oath is only as good as the intent of the maker.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Yes.

Our last hope it seems:

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