I didn't really need another reason to love Debian more but here we are... I'm donating to Debian today
this post was submitted on 30 Jan 2025
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Great news, Thank you Debian community!
Wild that so many are still hanging out at the Nazi bar
Because they allow smoking
Yes, I'm sadly surprised by many open source projects still posting on that cesspool
The problem is for organizations it's harder to leave because that is where the people you want to reach are. That's the only reason any org or company is on social media in the first place. If they leave too soon they risk too many people not seeing the things they send out to the community.
It's more an individual thing because so many people just have social inertia and haven't left since everyone they know is already there. The first to leave have to decide if they want to juggle using another platform to keep connections or cut off connections by abandoning the established platform.
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Now I wish they had an ARM Qualcomm distro. Been hoping for a Linux distro for my Snapdragon X Elite machine. Now Debian had taken a stand for something they will probably be my distro once there is Linux support for my machine!
Debian already has an ARM version. Do you mean some Qualcomm drivers are missing? There are already Ubuntu ROMs for Android phones, so this shouldn't be an issue, right?
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... Debian was on twitter??
Debian: the OG. The boss. The king.
I don't mind, actually everyone should ditch Twatter.
& all the US-based corporate social media… Facebook, Instagram, Threads, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Reddit, Discord, LinkedIn, & GitHub.
The VC-funded ones too like BlueSky
I think Bluesky can be an exception. I think it's way better than Mastodon from a UX standpoint. And it's still open.
People just don't learn.
And it's still open.
It like chromium, control by for profit vc company.
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all of the corporate social media tbh. federation is the way out of this cycle.
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In any case, RSS should be enough.
"640k should be enough for anybody"
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As it turns out, having an account on a social media platform full of Nazis, violent racists, and child diddlers is not good for business.
I don't like how people are trying to stir up dissent and drama around this. The message posted is short and on point, it includes all the important bits. There really isn't much more to add.
Oh but look at this deleted draft PR release that was committed that doesn't really say anything spicy and was later sharpened up to reflect the intentions of the author.
They were still on Xitter?
Personally, I think that the discussion around this will evolve as the news spreads, but I agree with Robert on this one. Sure, X/Twitter has become a less welcoming place than before, but shutting out a significant portion of your community without seeking their input first isn't a sensible move for such a foundational open source project.
Nah, I think I'm cool if Debian doesn't respect the input of Nazi sympathisers.
Yeah what the fuck is with that.
It's a very twitter centric view of the web. If you're not on xitter you're "shutting out a significant portion".
The thing is, it's not simply that Musk has an ideology that is disparate from my own, he has an agenda that is egregiously contrary to the stated values of the Debian project.
You'd consult with the community over a new logo or blog layout maybe, but on whether to assist Musk in his far right agenda there's not really any decision to be made honestly.
Yeah, that section is bad.
For one, it's has classic vibe "if you want to keep the nazis out, you're the one who's exclusionary".
But also, how is refusing to engage on a platform "shutting out a significant portion of [the] community"? That sounds backwards to me. Blocking people from engaging with Debian on its own platforms would be shutting them out. The implication in the article is that Debian is obligated to be unconditionally present on every social platform its users might be on.
The other twist is, unlike Xitter, you don't have to create an account on Mastodon to be able to read their feed. You can access it like any other website. So nobody is getting shut out. They're just posting elsewhere, where anyone can read it.
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Last time they seeked input they ignored it and shoved systemd anyway...
I keep making the incorrect assumption that everyone has already left X. Just seems common sense we've hit all hands abandon ship
Never underestimate the network effect and how reluctant people are to move to another social network. The masses just follow the crowd, so every big account moving out from there helps take more users away.
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There are lots of brands and people still on X and try to justify it with hand waving.
I keep making the incorrect assumption that everyone
Nicely concise description of bubble-dwelling.
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Good for them. It's an organisation's free choice to pick the platforms they post and interact on, if any. Their presence is a service in itself while there are plenty of other ways to follow or reach them if needed.
So Wayland?
Does Wayland has its own Mastodon instance? If yes, they could do a funny.
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Came here to make this joke. Was an hour too late...
Care to explain?
The X Window System (aka X.Org or X11) has been the default window system in many distros. Recently there has been a new window system called Wayland, so the joke would be that Debian is dropping X11 and switching to Wayland.
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The reasoning behind this move is said to be X/Twitter not being in line with Debian's shared values
They can be found on Mastodon here: @[email protected]
For now that was just a bot mirroring posts. I don't think they've said whether they'll use that going forward.
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L M A O
party rock is in the house tonight
Everybody just has a good time