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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People in the comments claiming it's social anxiety but I have no problem talking to people face to face or in an internet-based voice or video call. But phone calls are just ass. The audio quality sucks, I barely understand what the other person says and I don't get to choose when and where it happens, might be one or both people are in some noisy situation etc and it's just all around so awkward. I also think it's kinda rude. A message is "Hey I want to exchange X information, reply whenever you want", a call is "YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION TO ME RIGHT NOW". It's also incredibly annoying when some official place insists on phone calls only. Fucking brilliant, now I have to take half an hour of my day queueing and/or calling repeatedly to get done what I would have typed out in half a minute as an email. It's even worse if it's them who call you. "You will get a call from us in the next 3 days". Now I have to be on fucking high alert to be available at that exact time or the back and forth missed calls start. Instead of just receiving an email and replying whenever.

Edit: not to even mention that text is permanent and can be referenced later while calls are not

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

This is the correct answer.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (4 children)

For me it's a few reasons:

  1. It demands my attention right here, right now
  2. I don't know that it's going to happen, I cannot prepare
  3. Usually during the call I'm forced to hold the phone, meaning I can't look stuff up or write stuff down easily
  4. I fidn listening way harder than reading, and the quality of calls doesn't help with that

I much prefer text because it give some time to delay answering until it's convenient for me, look up answers to any questions I may have, and because I can re-read and think about stuff.

Calling is like an interrupt forcing me to drop everything there and then and immediately provide an answer, messaging is something I poll every now and then when I'm not overloaded or focused so I can actually take the time to answer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I feel attacked on a call, i need a breath of air to process and reply to something.

On a call i feel so forced to reply faster otherwise i can notice people get annoyed. Which often leads to me saying things i didn't want to.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are perfectly allowed to say not right now, let's call tomorrow in the evening.

Texts are easy to forget and difficult to write.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

In what way are they difficult to write?

And saying that is going to piss off a lot of folk. Nope. Best I can do is ignore the call and then send a message "can't now, will recall".

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Why would a call necessarily need "an answer"?. If my parents call, it's because they want to talk like humans do.

If someone calls because they need an answer, perhaps you should answer?

Granted, i've noticed that people call for the most basic things nowadays, just cause they can. That's the real issue, not calls in and of themselves. Its a skill like most other things.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

For me, it's autism.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the more serious discussion the more time I want to have to be able to convey myself concisely and prepared. Phone calls can be awkward and reactionary. plus how the fuck have we not yet solved phone audio quality and consistency problems.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

how the fuck have we not yet solved phone audio quality and consistency problems.

Blame apple

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I always do.

But also why specifically? I love any opportunity I get to talk shit about their anticonsumer practices and this shit is right up my alley, what are they blocking now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because I take no joy in small talk, waste of time. I type basically as fast or even faster than I talk. I can maintaine multiple conversations at once. And I can answer when I want instead of being locked up with one person that gets its way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And I can answer when I want instead of being locked up with one person that gets its way.

Was the "its" a typo or do you think of people on the phone like objects that need to be moved aside?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Why though?

What is so hard about getting a call and talking to someone?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Because it forces you to drop everything out of nowhere, losing all the focus you may have had. And then you might need to hold the phone, you need to find a place where you don't annoy everyone around you, and so you basically cannot look up anything.

Text is much superior imo, and messages can be answered whenever convenient (depending on urgency). But even people talking in real life are much better than a call. You can see them coming, you keep your hands free and a can usually stay where you are, they're way better to understand than shitty call quality.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I'm trying to work on something complicated, it takes 20-30 minutes to remind myself of all the disparate pieces and get into the "zone" of productivity. Your phone call ruins that, makes me have to start the process over again and drastically increases the likelihood of me screwing something up. If people keep calling or shoulder tapping me, I get nothing done.

If you text first, it gives me the option to ignore you for a bit if I'm in the middle of something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Depends. Am I trying to get a super quick answer to a super short but urgent question? Or am I trying to have long form communication like a pen pal?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I check my texts. I check my email. I check my DM. When I want to.

YOU choose when the call happens.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And ignoring the call or turn DND on isn't an option? No judgement, just curious.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It gets easier the more you do it like most things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Disagree. Part of my job entails calling people (and I even started at a phone helpdesk 20 years ago) and I still despise and loathe calling on the phone with people I don't know for making appointments or getting quotes. To the point it will probably impact my health since my dentist only takes appointments by phone. (Before my sister in law worked there so I could DM her to ask her directly)

Exposure doesn't always make it easier.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That sounds like you have a mental health problem.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Basically, as soon as other reliable methods became widely adopted. No, I don't have any phone call related anxiety or whatever, I'll call someone if I really need to, I would just rather not. I'd much rather get a text that says, "Hey, we're meeting up at 7pm to go out and do, XYZ, do you want to come?" than a phone call that starts with that and turns to "So anyway, did I tell you my mom blah, blah, blah... And I don't know what to say, because I kind of want to go, but it would be a lot blah, blah, blah."

Phone calls with friends and family have a way of spiraling off into tangents when I don't necessarily have the time to entertain them, but don't want to be a dick all the time telling people I don't have time at the moment to listen to them. If there's a self-service section to a company's website or app, I can usually do whatever I need faster than it would take me to get through the automated menus and hold music to call and have them do it. Like my pharmacy, if I want to refill a prescription online, I log in, check a box and hit submit. Done. If I call them, I need to go through three menus to get patched through to the pharmacy, tell them what I want, hold for a moment while they help someone in the store, give them my info and wait for them to look it up, etc.

When I plan to meet up with people, I make plenty of time to talk to them and listen to whatever. When I get what I think is going to be a short phone call that devolves into tangents, I don't necessarily have the time to entertain whether the fact that my friend's cousin had his toe amputated due to gangrene means he should get the spot on his nipple tested for leprosy, or if he should just improve his personal hygiene and see if it washes off in the shower.

If something really is going to be a pain to communicate via text, schedule that conversation and we can have a call to discuss it, but I'm not answering phone calls whenever somebody calls out of the blue unless I'm interviewing for jobs or expecting a call about some sort of emergency.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

For the workplace, calls are king. If you're a professional, calling another professional, it's the easiest and fastest way to exchange information back and forth. Long email chains that take several days to reach their conclusion are inefficient. If you need something done, in the work/business arena, just call. Younger generations are entering the workforce for first time and are scared to make or answer calls. It's embarrassing.

Sure, outside of work, keep calls to a bare minimum. Family usually text first to arrange a phone call.

People have no back bone anymore. Oh no, I'm getting telemarketing calls... Just hang up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah but why phone calls? Slack or some equivalent is just superior in every way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure, but cold calling someone is still a dick move. Professionals have schedules and deadlines. The proper etiquette is to first engage over email or text and ask if they're free for a call unless it's something truly urgent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure, but cold calling someone is still a dick move

Thats an insane take. Especially for anyone that isn't slave to the notification storm on a phone.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Id say 20% of the time at work when someone calls its usually someone trying to do a sketchy end-run around the rules or get access to something they shouldnt have and they dont want it documented that they asked.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because we don't have those nice thick hard plastic handles to rest on your shoulder

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or how about those pink cute kool "princess" table top phones

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

You could fit a whole smartphone inside one of the later ones with the buttons that would leave marks on your face

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Combination of spam callers being more prevalent and the younger generation has unbelievably high social anxiety as a direct result of them mostly being raised indoors and alone with family.

I'm not saying that the way we older folks grew up was inherently better at all times, but it certainly forced us to converse with strangers and develop those skills.

My little twin brothers and my little sister were actually afraid to call a pizza place and order pizza when they were younger. They still don't really do phone calls aside from work related things or direct family.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I don't know why, but I despise phone calls. I'd even rather someone video call me or talk face to face. I just find it worse than every other method of communication.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Voicemail should be lower on that list, I'd rather take a call than check voicemail any day.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not once have I had a usable voice mail UI. Forced to go through 10 seconds of menu between each message to delete and select the next one, and 90% of them are people just hanging up after realizing they hit voice mail. Then the few times I do get an important message, I have to replay the full message multiple times to transcribe the number I need to call. No seeking, no ending the playback after I've passed the bit I needed, often terrible audio. Why do you do this when you have my email?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I have to use 3CX for work and it's the least bad voicemail I've had any experience with. Literally emails me the .wav so I can listen with VLC.

Sometimes I play techno and pretend I'm getting missions in armored core. Almost doesn't suck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My iPhone just has a list of them where you can tap one and see a transcription I can quickly read to confirms it’s spam, does your phone not?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe the speech recognition has improved since I last gave automatic transcription a shot, but in my experience it was almost always laughably bad.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I just ring people back and ask what they wanted.

After a while they get the hint and stop leaving voicemails.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm glad ring central let's you delete in mass and transcribes them. Not listening to that shit.

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