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Proton Mail, known for its privacy-first email services, faced backlash after CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party and its antitrust stance.

The company initially posted and deleted a statement supporting Yen’s comments, later claiming an “internal miscommunication” and reiterating its political neutrality.

Critics question Proton’s impartiality, particularly as it cooperates with Swiss authorities on legal data requests.

Privacy advocates warn that political alignments could undermine trust, especially for Proton’s users—journalists and activists wary of government surveillance under administrations like Trump’s.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

gonna quickly post here, since I don't know quite where else would be good, but I noticed sometime last year that the website, https://standardnotes.com/ (a product owned by proton) seems to use a massive amount of AI generated imagery.

also: I thought I was a fool for not getting lifetime visionary when I could, now a little less so :)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Standard Notes is owned by Proton? I didn't know it lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I only found out since I used standard notes before the ownership thing, I suppose I'm gonna have to look for a syncing note taking service again.

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

I migrated literally everything from Gmail around 2021. Gotta tell ya, I feel just about dumb as shit right now. I kind of understand people with those "I bought this before he sieg heiled" bumper stickers on their Teslas.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

I was planning to transition everything to proton this month. Now I don't know what to do.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

Okay, can someone help me, a tech illiterate, choose a new vpn, email provider, and password manager? I'd really prefer open source.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

You might want to have a look at this site to study-up on available/recommended tools: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ I use Mullvad VPN myself and am happy w/it. Ditto Bitwarden which works well and is cheap. I have a Tuta account but detest the UI and the fact that they don't support IMAP/SMTP clients, or PGP, so I do my own PGP encryption/decryption using Thunderbird Mail on desktop which has built-in support for it. Also I use Fastmail as a (paid) provider (no built in PGP but tons of other bells & whistles) though mailbox.org looks interesting and is well-priced. Finally I use addy.io for anonymous aliases/forwarding and they have good PGP support.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Vpn: Mullvad

Email: Tuta / tutanota

Password manager: Bitwarden or 1password

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

DEFINITELY do not go 1password. They took a massive VC investment and it is only a matter of time before they find a way to monetize it. Ignoring the fact they absolutely destroyed the app.

Bitwarden (you can host yourself with vaultwarden) or KeepassXC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They took a massive VC investment and it is only a matter of time before they find a way to monetize it.

Can you explain this? I've been using the app for over 10 years and it's only gotten better. I haven't seen any evidence yet that it would suddenly change

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, in 2021 they took a $100M investment for a password manager. There's no planet on which they can justify that valuation without doing things to significantly increase their revenue. https://techcrunch.com/2021/07/27/1password-raises-100m-at-a-2b-valuation/

If you've used the product for 10 years like you claim, then you should know very well the many ways in which they've gotten worse. A couple obvious ones off the top of my head because I dropped them like a bad habit after I saw that VC "investment":

  1. they killed off any ability to purchase a permanent license key and forced people into subscriptions.
  2. the app has only improved? How are those nested tags working for you? A feature they had 10 years ago that they broke and never brought back.
  3. Performance on windows has continually gotten worse with every release for the last 8 years.
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Keepass is superior in my experience for passwords

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

From a UX perspective I disagree. 1password wins at UX hands down but Bitwarden is a very close second and IMO has better privacy guarantees.

Security is useless if it's too difficult. Despite liking Bitwarden I am a 1Password subscriber and happy with my choice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Really? I really dislike the UI of one password. I have to use it for work and it's a pain.

Never tried bit Warden could be good who knows not me that's for sure.

I don't think keepass is to difficult as to make it useless. I think it really depends on the platform there are some amazing Android apps that will autofill directly from your keyboard no real work necessary it recognizes everything. Now if you're on Windows... Yeah things start to fall off the wagon

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They asked as a "tech illiterate" so I answered what I'd answer a tech illiterate person.

Keepass is good, but it's not tech illiterate friendly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Oh I must have missed that sorry. Then yes it's a bit more difficult for the tech illiterate until they've been using it for a while

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is so disappointing. I've already migrated my passwords back to KeePass. Time to start hunting down other alternative. This is what I get for allowing myself the comfort of a centralized ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

I thought it was KeepAss

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