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Submission Statement

Between 2001 and 2021, under four U.S. presidents, the United States spent approximately $2.3 trillion, with 2,459 American military fatalities and up to 360,000 estimated Afghan civilian deaths.

After the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan in August 2021, approximately $7.12 billion worth of military equipment was left behind, according to a 2022 Department of Defense report. This equipment, transferred to the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) from 2005 to 2021, included:

Weapons: Over 300,000 of 427,300 weapons, including rifles like M4s and M16s.  
Vehicles: More than 40,000 of 96,000 military vehicles, including 12,000 Humvees and 1,000 armored vehicles.  
Aircraft: 78 aircraft, valued at $923.3 million, left at Hamid Karzai International Airport, all demilitarized and rendered inoperable.  
Munitions: 9,524 air-to-ground munitions worth $6.54 million, mostly non-precision.  
Communications and Specialized Equipment: Nearly all communications gear (e.g., radios, encryption devices) and 42,000 pieces of night vision, surveillance, biometric, and positioning equipment.  

The total equipment provided to the ANDSF was valued at $18.6 billion, with the $7.12 billion figure representing what remained after the withdrawal. Much of this equipment is now under Taliban control, though its operational capability is limited due to the need for specialized maintenance and technical expertise.

The United States has provided at least $93.41 billion in total aid to Afghanistan since 2001. This includes:

Military Aid (2001–2020): Approximately $72.7 billion (in current dollars), primarily through the Afghanistan Security Forces Fund ($71.7 billion) and other programs like International Military Education and Training, Foreign Military Financing, and Peacekeeping Operations ($1 billion combined).  

Humanitarian and Reconstruction Aid (2001–2025): Around $20.71 billion, including $3 billion in humanitarian and development aid post-2021 and $3.5 billion in frozen Afghan assets transferred to the Afghan Fund in 2022. Pre-2021 reconstruction and humanitarian aid (e.g., $174 million in 2001 and $300 million pledged in 2002) adds to this, though exact figures for the full period are less clear.  
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (21 children)

TBF, withdrawing was a Trump era decision that Joe Biden simply didn't stop. Trump also released 5,000+ Taliban Fighters just before. I feel like if we didn't elect people like Donald fucking Trump then the outcome might have been different, it really seems like he was intentionally causing these problems.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This shit haunts me sometimes. I remember hearing somewhere that the Taliban actually offered to deliver OBL to the US if they would promise not to invade and we were like "get fucked, idiot". How many people's lives did we needlessly destroy, regardless of nationality, both in Iraq and Afghanistan? What else could have been bought besides misery with the nearly four trillion between those two wars?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And we're supposed to believe these people are smart enough for nukes? I wonder how many of the people in this photo can actually read or write?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this text AI generated? The civilian death toll in the "submission statement" is about 6x higher than accepted numbers and about 100K higher than all total deaths in the entire conflict.

IMO (AI or not) slop like this just "floods the zone with shit" while doing noting to help the progressive cause.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is in the first paragraph of what you linked:

The Cost of War project estimated in 2015 that the number who have died through indirect causes related to the war may be as high as 360,000 additional people based on a ratio of indirect to direct deaths in contemporary conflicts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I shouldn't need to tell you that that is a completely different statistic. You don't need to muddy the waters of truth to make the point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

and how long did it take the USA to have a actual Dicktator

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You show me a boat filled with dildos made from potatoes, and I'll show you a dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

go fly your kite in Non USA countries, good luck with that

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Uh, sir? This is a Wendy's.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

and the USA claims healcare for its citizens is unaffordable

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

We're also cutting Veteran benefits, which has been a recurring thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

That's a K/d ratio of 147:1

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Never get involved in someone else's civil war.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about starting them? Is that allowed?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, only coups and revolutions

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

We showed them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

All right wing religious lunatics must go.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The secular ones too

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All religious lunatics must go.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

before that it was the mujahadeen trained by SEALs/special operations, turned taliban.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Man, am I glad that never backfired.

Still, we got Charlie Wilson's War out of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

A friendly reminder, being reductive only makes you sound clever to the ignorant.

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