Canada

Dude Americans pay more out of pocket for healthcare than any other country and get worse results.

Like, I have no idea what state you reside in but I have had months long wait times to see docs in the USA. Your made up example can be applied to the USA just the same except we're just paying more money for the privilege.

Our system is absolutely fucked.

Tired of this lie, tbh.

The waits are probably, on average, a little longer, sure. The "someone is waiting an absurd amount of time with an obvious visible problem and they've died while waiting" is pure privatization propaganda fueled by people going to the hospital for things like prescription refills and being shocked when they're pushed to the bottom of the list over and over again while people come in with genuine, time sensitive problems.

That's not accurate, that is repeating the line private places want you to say about provincial or national care.

I had cancer. When test came back positive, they got me in the next week for surgery, then to the center to do the paperwork and scans and predental work. They then needed another week or two to have 3d scans used to define the radition paths for the machine, and set up hospital visits and chemo. I was done treatment in 2 months.

The six month wait seems like BS unless you have a source.

6 months? You think 6 months to see an oncologist is rare in the US?

Are you including the number of people who don't seek any care until they end up in the ER with acute symptoms because they couldn't go in to get regular screening or preventive care?

And before you say that should be covered by the ACA you are still ignoring that hospitals are open 9-5 and the people who can't make it to the hospital are working the job they need for health insurance during those same hours, provided they have transportation and can take off more than an hour to wait for the primary care to visit them.

Not to mention, if the cancer hasn't progressed to stage 3 or 4 by that point, the health insurance won't likely be paying for the most effective treatment, they'll be paying for the treatment "they have on record for effective treatment".

And who's to say you can even get into an oncologist familiar with your cancer? Then may feel more comfortable referring you to a John Hopkins, or Mayo Clinic, or one in California. So now you have to pay for transportation and living expenses in another state while you get treatment and don't work. Some insurances might cover this. Most won't. Some companies will foot the bill. Most will laugh at you.

6 months? It's a 5 month wait to get a new primary care provider here. Fuck your 6 month complaint.

Would you rather reach in and pick an item from

Sack 1, which contains [rusty nails, angry scorpions, razor blades, one fun sized candy bar]

Sack 2, which contains [various candy bars, one rusty nail]

The US is sack 1 in this metaphor. People should improve the canadian system, but there's no reasonable take that they're at all similar