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Summary

Elon Musk escalated controversy over accusations that his salute at a Trump rally resembled a "Sieg heil" by posting Nazi-related jokes on X, referencing figures like Rudolf Hess and Joseph Goebbels.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) initially defended Musk, urging "a bit of grace" and "benefit of the doubt," but later condemned his Holocaust-related jokes as offensive.

Conservative Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also defended Musk.

Critics highlighted Musk's history of promoting far-right conspiracy theories and enabling neo-Nazi content on X, raising concerns about increasing offensive rhetoric on the platform.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Openly Nazi shit fuck does Nazi stuff news at 11

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

can we acknowledge how insane these things are in combination:

  • the worlds richest man
  • buys a large social media platform X, where most political conversations take place
  • supports a presidential candidate with millions of dollars
  • candidate gets elected
  • starts doing a Hitler salute
  • starts posting Nazi Names in a joking/meme manner

This is Keyne West story all over again, but with more money and more power & influence.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Then the leader of Israel defends him while committing genocide of their oldest neighbors

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

supports a presidential candidate with millions of dollars

Not just millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions of dollars. He used at least $260 million dollars to help Trump win.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/05/politics/elon-musk-trump-campaign-finance-filings/index.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

possibly the cost of the twitter purchase could be factored in, if one cedits musk with that level of forward thinking

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

TBF, that's pretty cheap for a presidency.

I wonder how much was spent/promised in quiet meetings with other countries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That's in addition to everything everyone else spent though. That was all extra.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

The problem with Nazi jokes is that Nazis don't think they are funny, and nobody else thinks they are jokes.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

Non-Nazi response to someone asking why you did a Nazi salute: "What? I would never do that!"

Nazi response to someone asking why you did a Nazi salute: "Haha it was just a prank bro"

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

Never let the nazis gaslight you or certain american media channels try to pan away and deemphasise what he did in their footage. If anyone tries to claim this was not a nazi salute, just point them to this few-seconds-long comparison video, maybe download with yt-dlp (cw: nazis doing nazi stuff like chanting) nya.

Also I'm autistic and nazi salutes are not stimming or simple social difference or whatever.

Stims are usually repetitive and/or simple motions or behaviours or similar (e.g. I stim by jumping up and down or repeating phrases or spinning my arms in circles, sometimes from happiness and sometimes as a way to regulate emotions), and not a complex deliberate action. That salute was a deliberate and non-repetitive action. I could see the bit at the start where he walks around and moves his arms up and down repeatedly being a stim, but the other stuff? And specifically the nazi salute? No.

Plus autistic people are not on the whole less capable of understanding ethics^1 or empathising (though we may have trouble reading non-autistic social cues or emotional states and thought processes, but if we understand what someone is feeling we experience empathy, though of course there are variations on that just like with non-autistic people, if you want to know more just look up the double empathy problem :p). He knows what he was doing.

I'm sick of people (usually bad faith actors of course but still) blaming this shit on autisticness and autistic people. Its like people think that being autistic just means being a dick and not caring about other people (of course, there are plenty of dickish autistic people just like there are of any other group of people nya). And its especially disgusting given that Nazis attempted to genocide us.

I do understand that not everyone understands autism very well but come on.... its such bullshit <.<

1: some studies suggest autistic people are actually more likely to follow their own sense of ethics even without social pressure when it would benefit them to break it, though these kinds of tests are done in very limited circumstances and I've not really looked at them in that much detail

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So the group that kept saying if you say "free palestanian" or "israel is bad" you are a nazi and antisemitic, suddenly had no issue with nazi marks by Musk?

if elon musk doesn't get sued for hate crime, while student protesting genocide do, then you know who is your enemies,,

[–] [email protected] 143 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His supporters have argued alternately that Musk’s autism affects how he behaves in public, and that the salute was nothing much out of the ordinary.

I'm on the spectrum. People, stop using neurodivergence as an excuse for someone being a shitty person. People like us can still tell good from evil even if we don't fully understand common social behaviors. The golden rule is easy enough to understand.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’ve never seen an autistic person just give a Nazi salute accidentally. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a person do it accidentally, especially twice, and—twice with other Nazis in the room.

That asshole did everything except click his heals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They'll be gaslighting everyone right up to the actual point of goosestepping in front of their dried orange peel - and then past that.

"Stop calling us Nazis! That's a hate crime!", they'll be squealing as they work on their Nazi plans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

“It’s not a Nazi symbol, it’s just cultural appropriation.” Rosanne says with her white dreadlocks. “We hate Nazis!” SALUTE 🙋‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's like Rosanne blaming her racism on sleep medication. Sure thing racist.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think her recent music video shut down any chance for her to claim it was medication lol

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, it gets worse?! 😂 I haven't been keeping up.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s something you can’t unsee. Just know it was pro-Trump, and she had dread locks. Much like two girls one cup, I won’t help you find it, and I’d suggest you don’t. ;)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That video belongs in a South Park episode, not real life.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

That is a very good description of the video.

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