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You'd think a hegemony with a 100-years tradition of upkeeping democracy against major non-democratic players, would have some mechanism that would prevent itself from throwing down it's key ideology.

Is it really that the president is all that decides about the future of democracy itself? Is 53 out of 100 senate seats really enough to make country fall into authoritarian regime? Is the army really not constitutionally obliged to step in and save the day?

I'd never think that, of all places, American democracy would be the most volatile.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The voters were supposed to be that check and the Framers were explicit in that it was part of how they designed the Constitution.

Even regarding electing a felon, the Framers didn't want a case where one state pushed through a a felony conviction quickly to keep someone out of office.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lol its called the 2nd amendment we just gotta wait for the new Luigi to drop

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

You’d think a hegemony with a 100-years tradition of upkeeping democracy against major non-democratic players, would have some mechanism that would prevent itself from throwing down it’s key ideology.

"100-years tradition of upkeeping democracy"? That's not even true in a very minimal definition of democracy, let alone if we also mean equal rights for all. Just off the top of my head:

The vote of racial minorities was not protected before 1965.

COINTELPRO was a thing just over 50 years ago, targeting whatever political group was considered undesirable by the FBI. The FBI was found to be using unlawful surveillance targeting protesters for the inexcusable killing of a black man by police as recently as five years ago.

Last election there was an attempt to overturn the election results. It's not taken as seriously as it should have because it failed, but it was literally an attempt to overthrow democracy. It's important to note that Trump was allowed to run for president and the case against him was dropped as soon as he got elected. I'm pointing it out because the system was already there to protect him and it's not something that he caused through his own actions as president.

There are so many unwarranted invasions of other countries, assassinations, and human rights violations that I don't even know where to link to as a starting point.

Don't forget the large scale surveillance both within and without the country.

And then there's all the undemocratic qualities of unregulated free market capitalism. Politicians are lobbied. News outlets belong to wealthy individuals who often have other businesses as well. Social media too. Technically, you get to cast a vote that is equal to everybody else's. But your decision is based on false data, and your representative is massively incentivized to lie to you and enact policies that server their lobbyists and wealthy friends instead. Do we all really have equal power?

So if you mean democracy in a very literal and minimal sense, that the people have some sort of power through their vote, that's technically still going on. If you mean in it a more general sense, where people have fundamental rights that are always protected regardless of race or other characteristics, and where power is not unfairly distributed between individuals and racial groups, then again not much has changed. Because that was never the case. If you think fascism was universally condemned then you just hadn't realized how widespread and normalized it always was. Maybe fascism is growing. Maybe it's becoming more blatant. But it was always there.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 days ago (23 children)

The mechanism is the three branches of power providing checks and balances and voting. But when the people elect them to all three branches. It kinda defeats the purpose

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago

Well isn't that the reason everyone uses on why America needs so many guns. So they can stand up to the government? But seems it ment standing up to a government giving more people rights not one taking them away.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So, giving the public a means of dealing with tyrannical leadership, either through intimidation or something more, is literally and unironically one of the intended use cases for the second amendment. That's not to say you won't face prosecution, but there it is.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

I'm told three marked bullets work wonders.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

we have systems for putting people like him in jail but we just didn't want to do it

[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The country just elected this guy knowing that this is what he would do. That's democracy.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

And knowing that he's a convicted felon. And twice impeached. And almost certainly a rapist. And a successful conman.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Efficient propaganda is not democracy

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago

But gullible people voting or not certainly is.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We have the second amendment, but I don't know how bear arms will help.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

ARM THE BEARS!

BEAR FLAG REPUBLIC!

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