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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

1000% agree. There is no freedom but the freedom that we build together.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Guns are the only alternative to the tech oligarchy.

You think they can't buy, manipulate, or just crush decentralized social media? If anything they can do it easily, divide and conquer. FOSS ain't gonna free you, esp. when the largest contributors to FOSS projects are big corps.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That's absurd. Large sharp dropped blades, poison, starvation, spears, looped ropes, fire... There are many alternatives available.

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[–] [email protected] 239 points 1 week ago (34 children)

Agreed. But we need a solution against bots just as much. There's no way the majority of comments in the near future won't just be LLMs.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There are simple tests to out LLMs, mostly things that will trip up the tokenizers or sampling algorithms (with character counting being the most famous example). I know people hate captchas, but it’s a small price to pay.

Also, while no one really wants to hear this, locally hosted "automod" LLMs could help seek out spam too. Or maybe even a Kobold Hoard type "swarm."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Captchas don't do shit and have actually been training for computer vision for probably over a decade at this point.

Also: Any "simple test" is fixed in the next version. It is similar to how people still insist "AI can't do feet" (much like rob liefeld). That was fixed pretty quick it is just that much of the freeware out there is using very outdated models.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also is data scraping as much of an issue?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Data scraping is a logical consequence of being an open protocol, and as such I don't think it's worth investing much time in resisting it so long as it's not impacting instance health. At least while the user experience and basic federation issues are still extant.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Closed instances with vetted members, there’s no other way.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (15 children)

If you could vet members in any meaningful way, they'd be doing it already.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

Too high of a barrier to entry is doomed to fail.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Isn't that basically the same result though...

Problem with tech oligarchy is it just takes one person to get corrupted and then he blocks out all opinion that attacks his goals.

So the solution is federation, free speech instances that everyone can say whatever they want no matter how unpopular.

How do we counteract the bots...

Well we need the instances to verify who gets in, and make sure the members aren't bots or saying unpopular things. These instances will need to be big, and well funded.

How do we counter these instance owners getting bought out, corrupted (repeat loop).

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