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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This and what Putin's presidency turned out to become in the long run is what I now happen to imagine largely felt like to witness the Nazis rise to power.

You just don't know what's coming before it's actually there. The historical evidence even shows that the Nazis weren't that out-of-touch with reality at first, at least in terms of what was largely acceptable back in their day - like rights to land, borders, with many countries and nations being in a very turbulent state after the first World War. It's only after they got the power and set up the frameworks, like gradually oppressive laws and manipulating opinions and values through propaganda, that they went to do what we ultimately associate them with.

Putin spoke very high of "the west" and democracy and such at first, but quickly showed his true self when the Kursk sank, then with Beslan (the Nord Ost), then many more times, but back in the day, without today's hindsight, it seemed so... plausibly deniable? Like people could just vote him out the next time or excuse some things with the same traumas and biases that still brewed in the generations born in or shorty after the USSR. Now a full-blown tyrant, modernized to dictate through deceit, looking wild compared to his first days - a proper example of boiling the proverbial frog; turning the dial little by little, either compounding into some greater evil or simply revealing its true self, both equally inconsequential in the end.

Trump and Musk, similarly, have for the most part been interesting characters, so bizarre that excepting anything more felt naive, beyond the realm of possible. And yet again, unless there is enough backlash early on, people like this will keep pushing, until they lead us to the edge.

I never wanted to see for myself how something so terrible can rise to power, seemingly past everyone's attention. It's dreadful to think that the lessons of history are bets learned on one's own mistakes, that the Germany's experience is not enough to generate the unrest that keeps such people out of power.

I'm not even on the same continent as these two, but I know they'll be influencing a whole lot of change around the world, change that will never benefit any way.

The more things change...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Please let him die already...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Stop posting this fucker

Also: "But why Russians just don't overthrow putin if they don't agree with the war?"

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (15 children)

How many Americans right now are going to be like the Jews in Germany in the 1930s? They're a targeted group and can see what's coming, but for some reason aren't doing everything in their power to get away before they're rounded up and thrown in camps?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Did you forget about the election?

Immigrants from Springfield, Ohio are eating cats and dogs.

And now Trump is moving for mass deportations.


The good news is that Trump is ignorant and bad at his job. I dunno how long it'd take to setup detention camps for immigrants but it's definitely coming.

I'd say that any Hispanic or Latino, even Puerto Ricans, are at risk. Depending on which state you are in. Arizona is known to throw out US Citizens for deportation if the sheriff thinks you look funny.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Add to this that some media are "baffled at what it could mean"…

[–] [email protected] 127 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

We need to save and remember this moment. The assholes are already rewriting history as we speak.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Maybe trump is just the Paul von Hindenburg of our time, the real threat is someone who we don't expect at all.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He once were in Poland visiting the concentration camp Ausschwitz with his son. He has nothing learned about this visit. It's a disgusting man. And it's high time to arrest him. Ban him. Take all his money and assets and put it for good use. Or send him to mars. Immediately. Solo mission.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Oh he learned something, but the opposite of what normal people learn.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Give him the Luigi special treatment

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

What? What.. what..? ..??

Help, how do I escape this cursed timeline

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Build a time machine

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Molotov cocktails

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Holy shit lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I guess I'm going to be the one that plays devil's advocate as there is no context here other than a still image, but is it possible he wasn't intentionally doing a Nazi salute and has just been caught in an incredibly awkward pose?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

100% Nazi

Anyone who defends this Nazi is a Nazi. Full stop.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Wouldn't a Nazi that thought Musk is also a Nazi be saying that it is a Nazi salute?

I don't think devils advocates or people that see life as shades of grey rather than black and white are default Nazi's, but I understand that the US is an emotionally turbulent place right now.

Full stop lol

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2bbb-6Clhs

Here's the video. He did it twice, emphatically.

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