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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

According to Past Clarkson, if Current Clarkson can't make good money farming then Current Clarkson shouldn't be a farmer. Simple as that.

And that is because Current Clarkson is the worst farmer ... in the world.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I've not watched anything this person has been in, but every time I see him sharing his thoughts and opinions in publication he seems like a genuinely incurious, blathering moron.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Clarkson is going to Waitrose to get fancy bread. Aldi sell it for 45p. 25p to the farmer leaves just 20p which is split between transport, processing and what ever profit Aldi are taking out of it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Clarkson not knowing the price of bread is one hardly a surprise.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Incomplete picture, need prices on the transport of the wheat, processing it into flour for bread use, transporting the flour to the bakery, bakery electric to run ovens, labor to run ovens, machines (probably) that slice and bag the bread, and trucks/drivers to distribute it to retailers, and the retailer's labor/overhead. All of that factors in the price from "wheat" to "bread," sure nobody in that chain is selling for a loss and they all make profit, but even if everyone operated at cost it's still going to be more expensive in "bread" state than "wheat" state for the simple fact that even if everyone "does it for cost" it will still add more to do more things to the product.

If he said "we sell wheat for 25p/kg and the store resells that same package of wheat for 1.40," he may have a point. Even then the point is "sell directly to end users and cut out the middle man then." Hell if buying weed has taught me one thing it's that the more people touch it the more expensive it gets, always get as close as you can to the distributor and buy in bulk.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You are completely correct.

But that doesn't mean the price is always right.

Here in Belgium we had a year where the electricity was 6x more expensive. They changed the bread prices from around €2.20 to around €2.80 because of that (no idea why). Now the electricity has its normal price again, but the breads are still the same price.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Weed is how yanks learn about the metric system

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dont forget the farmers are being subsidized by the government so they have little risk. But noone seems to take note of that.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Proof positive that doing drugs prepares you for the world better than head-in-the-sand conservatism! Party on.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

damn bread is only 1.40 there?

even the store brand enriched with sawdust bread here costs between 1.90 and 2.50

ACTUAL bread costs between 4.50 and can even be 6-7 if you buy the fancy bread

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Dave's Killer all the way.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It's about £1.30 for a branded loaf of wholemeal. You can get an own brand which is nearly as good for about 70p.

Where are you from where it's costing that much?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is the man who punched somebody in the face when service workers went home and he was huuuungy

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Workers are being exploited??!? Quickly, someone write this down!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This dumbass was happy that government was paying him not to do anything with his land for that show he had called Clarkson's Farm or something. I wonder when it started to hurt him so he started to pay attention...

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In the show, he started farming as a little side project during the pandemic. But he realised how much it sucked and how hard it was for people for which it is the sole source of income.

He's tried to help his neighbours with the shops and restaurants. I don't know how much of it is propaganda or not, but it seems genuine given his recent public statements about it.

If a stubborn bastard like Clarkson can change his mind about stuff like that, it's always good.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I didn't say anything bad about his recent statements. I've yet to see anything real and tangible from his alleged efforts. While he was happy to accept such grants of doing nothing with joy. To me he is nothing but a TV personality and nothing about him is genuine. He literally did a Trump move on his latest interview where he asked the TV reporter what percentage is paying inheritance tax and she said 4% and he run with 96% of the people is having difficulties and shit. And when the same reporter asked where he get his numbers he asked his lackeys who is not effected? He is in my eyes nothing but an attention seeking bastard. Because he is talking loud but doing nothing real.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The real and tangible thing from his efforts is the slow itself. Regardless of his motives or wherever or not you like the guy, his show has actually raised a lot of awareness of how much farmers have struggled in the UK. He makes it very clear that the only reason he can afford to run the farm at all is because of the money from the show and he doesn't know how other farmers are surviving - which in many cases they aren't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

However he is also banging on about inheritance tax, which has nothing to do with whether real farmers can make ends meet and everything to do with rich, tax-dodge farmers like himself.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He made millions via Amazon, he's farm never hurt his wallet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He is farm? Hahahah

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 months ago

It seems you're ignorant of what greed is...

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lol, not discovers, just uses it a way that at this moment might serve him to further his own agenda.

It's just a business that has one "influencer" already on staff.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wait until he finds out how much we pay farmers in other countries for their goods

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Man aged 64 and 3/4 discovers unequal exchange

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He must have farted and the air bubble allowed him to get a glimpse of the outside world.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Nope way worse, he's only realising and bringing this up because he owns a farm. If he didn't have that self interest he wouldn't be saying anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Oh. The fart was just him talking out of his ass like usual.

[–] [email protected] 247 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)
  • Transporting the grain from the field to the mill.
  • Milling
  • Transporting flour (and at least 3 other ingredients) from the mill to the bakery
  • Baking, packaging
  • Transporting the bread from the bakery to the supermarket
  • Running the supermarket.

Turns out there is a difference between raw wheat and bread. More news at 8.

When farmers get paid too little for their effort, making these wild comparisons isn’t helping. It seems we’re about a year away from the conclusion “I stubbed my toe. This must be capitalism’s fault.”

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Those are needed to power the farm computers.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago

And items like Bread and Milk are commonly loss leaders - their priced at a loss or a minimal profit margin by the larger retailers that can afford to make a loss to profit richly elsewhere.

Staples like bread and milk are highly price competitive because there is so much choice - choice in brands but more importantly choice in which supermarket customers go to.

That price pressure goes down the entire production chain. Big companies like Warburtons and Hovis can still profit asbthey benefit from economies of scale, as do the supermarket chains. Big farms also benefit from economies of scale to profit. At every level the small players - farmers, independent bakeries and small retailers struggle to make any profit at all. And at every level wages are kept down.

This is capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s actually kind of crazy all of the rest of that happens for £1.25

Now if we do insulin in the USA, it won’t make so much sense. Capitalism!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Mass production and its effect on unit cost is amazing sometimes. But what is also lost is the transactions between each of those steps. Usually the ones that farm aren't the ones milling, baking, packaging, etc., so there are layers to consider as well, all reducing the unit prices because of the large scale.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Don’t understand how he can be part of this industry and not understand it at all.

Or he does understand and is playing a victim. Second is more likely.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is the guy who successfully played victim when he got fired for punching someone in the face. He knows exactly what he's doing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. I remember it well.

Did you see the interview during the farmers protest where he got upset that the interviewer pointed out he’d only bought the farm to dodge IHT?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What did you stub your toe on? Under which economic system was that object produced? Open your eyes, sheeple!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Whoa whoa go back to sleep you're woke now

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