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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24394554

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So far, Americans using RedNote have said they don't care if China has access to their data. Viral videos on TikTok in recent days have shown Americans jokingly saying they will miss their personal "Chinese spy," while others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

"This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren't controlled by the same few oligarchs," Quintin said. "People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Regarding the fediverse at large...

I believe that this is a design issue. Instances are designed so that they function like categories. That categories then have subcategories.

The issue is that with user distribution, you can't then just assign users round robin distribute the load. This leads to what we now have which is very confusing to the end user.

Users was a centralized experience. The duplication of communities is a prime example of the bad design.

In the abstract, I would consider putting all instances in a pool. Each instance runs a different community, with servers also duplicating x number of communities for the sake of redundancy (instance goes offline, content still exists on another server). It's complicated, and has it's own issues/flaws, but I believe that from a high level view, it is a better design in general.

The current system is just a mess unfortunately.

Perhaps there could be a hybrid of these two approaches that would be superior.

My back of the napkin design prioritizes user experience and ease of use. That said, I can immediately think of a few downsides.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Right now the user's identity and the content they consume & interact with are too intertwined in many cases.

There are two aspects here:

  1. The user's home base, which is basically which server or app they log into.
  2. The communities they belong to, which can be on any server anywhere on the fediverse.

We have to get out of the mindset that the server you sign up on is your community, because with federation, you are not limited to the server you sign up on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Each instance runs a different community, with servers also duplicating x number of communities for the sake of redundancy (instance goes offline, content still exists on another server). It’s complicated, and has it’s own issues/flaws, but I believe that from a high level view, it is a better design in general.

How are policies/moderation decisions discussed between the instances? That's why you have different versions of the same instance, because [email protected] and [email protected] are going to be quite different

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

No more instance based communities. Instead instances are assigned to groups of servers for redundancy and you end up with a more centralized experience.

Essentially you end up with a server cluster.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah sorry but no. Lemmy sucks and the fediverse is an overly complicated mess of in groups, our groups, federated and non federated communities and people will be racist to you and and you can also end up indoctrinated just as much by picking the wrong community starting point.

Wondering why people aren't here doesn't take a big mystery and despite all the people in here with blinders for all kinds of topics I'm not shocked that anyone looking in would be disgusted, compare this place to 4chan with user names and move on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

We're right here and we suck, mate. FOSS almost always sucks.

Besides, many Lemmy users have been very clear that they do not want the fediverse to have more reach. We don't try to appeal to TikTok users. We don't want to make space for them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Maybe people want a platform that’s more than just a constant Linux and capitalism-bad circlejerk sprinkled with some basic news and askreddit-type threads.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

We have Star Trek too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, shut up. Lemmy is great, thanks to it I spend even less time on social media because I get depressed if I overdo Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I do wish these appeared more on the front page though. Subscribing and curating my feed should be reserved for niche content IMO, not general communities like movies and art. Sadly the fediverse seems to lack real niche content too. Meanwhile TikTok (and similar sites) have an algorithm that feeds you interesting content you wouldn’t even think to look for. And both TikTok and RedNote have a large existing user base to provide all sorts of content.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Thank you! ^^

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's super funny that so many zoomers have just moved to another (more) Chinese app. So obviously the reporting has been about that, and not the fediverse. But I also don't understand why people have a need for these apps to get big. A small community of people who I kind of know a little bit is a way better experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's because TikTok and Instagram create dopamine addiction with their feed algorithms. Fediverse social networks do not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sure they don't. Can't imagine why I spend all the hours here

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