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Mark Carney is Your Nightmare Boss: a look at his personality-revealing pancake-flipping photo op (thedabbler.patatas.ca)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

TLDR: Author calls Carney a nightmare boss than proceeds to neurotically nitpick him like the worst micromanager in the multiverse. Literally no connection between their vapid observations and the baseless claims they allege.

The comments they made here are a clear indication of the lack of objectivity and frame of reference behind their writing. But it is an opinion and entitled to be so. It's just not a very good opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Curious if you clicked any of the dozen links that back up the claims made in the piece?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yup. Here's my thoughts on those.

  1. DGAF bout stampede and pancake flipping

  2. DGAF bout stampede and pancake flipping

  3. Only mention of replacement in that article is union saying AI cannot replace them. IMO we need more AI tools in public service.

  4. The expectations being unrealistic are your allegations. Based on what I've read from you, you're wholly unqualified to make those kind of determinations.

  5. Broken Link. I'll assume it's your opinion that the timelines are unrealistic.

  6. Canada's steel/auto sectors are highly integrated and interruption is going to have massive ripple effects in the Canadian economy. So yea Carney is meeting with their CEOs. NEXT.

  7. Our legislature has been largely ineffective and it's Clear the CPC/PP intend to continue gridlocking our government. Shifting power from the house is hardly the biggest problem with C-5. Further illustrating that you're not writing this article objectively but with a specfic target in mind.

  8. An amendment gets voted down and this relates to pancakes HOW? At least this is a legitimate concern about C5. Albeit a widely discussed one.

Honestly that's as far as I got. I have concerns about bills C-2 and C5, but the way you're trying to connect this to Carney personally is a waste of my time as a reader.

You absolutely lost me when you started trying to call out his financial holdings. It's right there in his response... Is Pierre Poilievre on the up and up with his stock options?

If I had written that and submitted it to my English teacher he would have told me to delete 80% and do 3 more drafts.

This whole thing comes off as a Carney hate piece with zero objectivity. You need to appreciate that the people taking the time to read articles are likely going to be turned off by blatantly biased writing.

I personally am only bothering to respond because clearly you put some effort into this, and maybe you do have something valid to say. But you got some work to do first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I find it interesting you are so fixated on the pancake aspect when the piece is (to me at least) quite clearly about the PM's personality, and how it parallels his policy and actions.

Thanks for pointing out the broken link, I'll correct that

Edit: that link seems to be working again, but it did take a while to load, weird

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This post is cathartic. It’s like you’re yelling in a group chat after a long shift under a clueless boss. If you already see Carney as a cold, top-down technocrat, it hits the mark. It’s sharp, funny, and captures a real frustration that a lot of people feel toward polished elites who seem out of touch with working life, but if you’re not already on that wavelength, it falls short of convincing. It leans too hard on a silly photo op and makes some big leaps from awkward pancake flipping to sweeping conclusions about Carney’s character and politics. There’s not much in the way of hard evidence or policy critique to back it all up, it’s more vibe than substance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 14 hours ago

I agree with this. I think a lot of Carney haters conveniently forget who Poilievre is. But in general every good point this blog post had to offer was buried underneath writing that shouldn't have been cut out in a draft.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

Thanks for reading!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m a bit shocked at the downvotes. The article brings up some valid criticism of how Carney treats people around him, even in the public eye, and how his actions are really speaking louder than his charming words of promise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think the title may be causing the downvotes, the first part of it sounds like a confirmation/ exposé rather than a personal analysis by the OP, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but might be misleading at first glance

Something like this might have done better

I didn't like how Mark Carney behaved at the stampede, and so I looked at the clip carefully to pick out a few points that may extend to how he treats the people around him

Note: I haven't had a chance to read the article yet, I'm hypothesizing based on the comment section on why people didn't like it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you do end up reading it, I'd love to hear what you think :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Gotta say, when the downvote brigade comes for a comment like the one I made above, it says to me that it's not about the title of the post, or the article's merits. Opinions will differ, of course!

People really just don't want to hear legit criticism of Carney, and will attempt to silence anyone who dares to. I had a large Liberal-supporter's account on Bluesky add me to their public blocklist of "toxic trolls", next to accounts like LibsOfTikTok, because I said - and this is verbatim - "Carney's housing plan is not FDR-like, sorry".

One of the top two comments in these replies makes a point that the piece itself actually agrees with - so they clearly hadn't even read it yet. The other one complains about the fact that the topic was chosen at all. So much for discourse!

Anyway, I've had plenty worse said about stuff I've written (a different essay whipped up a bunch of controversy on the orange site recently).

So, while I won't claim it doesn't sting at all when people are dismissive and rude, my skin is starting to get thicker, haha

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago

Thanks very much - and yeah, clearly it hit a nerve, lol

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you purposefully look for stuff to be mad at, you'll find it. Guy can't cook pancakes. It's a good thing PM doesn't mean Pancake Maker. Let's see the author of this article be the head of a central bank or negotiate a trade deal with the European Union.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did you actually click the link?

I ask because I am not touching that with a 10 foot pole, but am curious about the content.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I did. I like to read opinions to see if any good points are raised. I don't see any valid points in this article. The author derives Carney's entire personality from a 5 minute photo op where a chef helps him cook some pancakes at the Calgary Stampede.

The author suggests Carney is an angry authoritarian who hates working class people due to his behaviour in that photo op. Specifically, things like not picking up a pancake he dropped on the ground, and saying the reason he couldn't flip a pancake well was because the chef was making them way too big.

I've seen many valid criticisms of Carney, but this article isn't one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for the TL:DR, I appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus, this person wrote a whole article based on their impression of a stage managed photo op? Really?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Par for the course. Our politicians are not there with our best interests in mind. They cannot even relate to us.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago

Yep. I'm surprised how many people can't come to grips with the reality that Carney is like, super right-wing