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Just opening discussion, haha!

I mean if non-proton conversation isn't allowed, I'm just comparing, haha lol!

Okay seriously though.

The three services I'm exploring are:

  • Email (with email aliases)
  • VPN
  • Cloud Storage
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Email:

  • mailbox.org
  • tuta
  • hushmail

VPN:

  • astrill (expensive but awesome)
  • mullvad

Cloud storage:

Rent a small server / vps and set up your own nextcloud instance. Even some packages meant for webhosting work, as long as you can install custom php applications. I'm using all-inkl.com (private plus package) and got 500GB allocated to my nextcloud instance.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

I think that, if we want something fash-resistant we probably need something by a worker co-op where the whole org has to be fash to be a problem. I'm not aware of such services. A non-profit like Proton is next on the list. I'm not aware of another non-profit email provider. Tuta seems interesting but they're for-profit.

Also any of those should be based somewhere in Europe since the US regulatory regime is weak and about to get weaker. Email isn't end-to-end encrypted so its privacy depends on the regulatory regime of the provider.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

~~Neutron~~

I assume here you want to explore the three services individually, because putting all the eggs in the same basket is dangerous. In which case, Mozilla has a VPN service that builds up on someone else's (Mullvad I believe?). Dunno what to suggest on the other two fronts.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

For email, Startmail seems interesting. It was rated pretty high on PCMag.

https://www.startmail.com/pricing

Curious if people's thoughts.

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